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Thread: The RAC is seeking suggestions re: Trial Size

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    Senior Member Ted Shih's Avatar
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    Default The RAC is seeking suggestions re: Trial Size

    Here are some recent FT numbers

    Sioux Valley 129 dogs in Open
    Mid Illinois 105 dogs in Open
    Centennial 105 dogs in Open
    Rocky Mtn. 102 dogs in Open

    If the size of these trials is of concern to you, I suggest you write to the Retriever Advisory Committee as they are soliciting advice about what to do about trial size.

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    Good to know. I'll drop them a note.

    LESS IS MORE

    Of all the suggestions that I've read, I like conflicting trials.
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    Ditto on conflicting trial size....and increased use of the Restricted All-Age Open Stake.

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    I just hope it is a realistic solution. Many clubs get hooked on those huge entry fee dollars coming in. Hard to walk from all that dough and run fewer trials! If the RAC doesn't take action, the numbers will go down on their own as people become disgusted with huge entries. However, that solution could have a long-term damaging effect to the sport. Much better to be proactive and control a touchy situation.

    I would like to see the RAC change ONE line of the rules. Change the limit for competiting trials from 250 mile radius to 150 mile radius. In some areas like down here, we may not have to loose many trials due to conflicts. Our huge numbers happen from late February through March. To fix our area, only conflicting trials would be in that window.
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    If two clubs within the 350 mile radius wish to conflict, they can appeal to the Performance Events dept. and have an excellent chance of getting a waver.

    I could be wrong, but I think the 250 mile radius is for hunting tests. The 350 mile radius for FTs is what allowed Lone Star to hold their upcoming trial on 10/1-3 rather than Ouachita.

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    Just tossing out an idea for feedback --

    What about allowing a club that reaches some ridiculously high number of entries, say 120, to split their trial into two flights awarding first through fourth (and championship points) for both flights?

    Granted, not all clubs will have the manpower or grounds, but what about at least offering the option to those who do?

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    And there are alot of clubs out there that do NOT want conflicting trials due to lost revenue. I have experienced that locally.

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    And there are clubs (for example the Colorado circuit) that do not want conflicting trials because

    (a) it halves the number of trials people can run within 3 hours of home

    (b) the same people work the same trials

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableLabs
    What about allowing a club that reaches some ridiculously high number of entries, say 120, to split their trial into two flights awarding first through fourth (and championship points) for both flights?

    -- Just an idea.
    It would call for a big rule change since lisenced AKC clubs can only have two Opens and two Amateurs per year. I think the distance of 350 miles should be looked at.
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    I think they should make it more like 50 miles.

    Actually a really tough problem to solve.

    I am glad that it has finally gotten the attention of the powers that be.
    Colorado and Texas have been struggling with this for years.
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