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    My 13 week old CLM is starting to avoid going into his kennel after play times, evening walks, etc. When he senses that his time of roaming outside of the pen is about to come to an end, he will trot off about 30 feet from the kennel and lay down with his chin on the ground (pouting). When you walk up to him, he will roll over and want you to scratch his belly. If I don't have him on a lead at the moment, I've been just holding onto his collar and walking him to the kennel as I repeat the command. I've told my wife and son to never rub his belly or give him any positive reinforcement when he does this (not sure if my wife is following orders or not . Is there anything else I should be doing, or is this just a phase of testing his boundaries that will pass eventually?

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    Use the ear to get him in the kennel. It won't take but a couple of times for him to figure it out. Then he'll gladly kennel up.

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    Have you made the kennel a good place? Sounds like its not too him... And pulling/pinching a 13 week old's ear won't make it any better, IMO.
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    Have you been treat training this pup to familiarize him with basic commands? Why would you ever not have him on a rope or check cord at this stage? Either you are in charge of his behavior, or his moods are. Formal training begins soon. Right now you should be following a puppy program to get him ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jde512 View Post
    My 13 week old CLM is starting to avoid going into his kennel after play times, evening walks, etc. When he senses that his time of roaming outside of the pen is about to come to an end, he will trot off about 30 feet from the kennel and lay down with his chin on the ground (pouting). When you walk up to him, he will roll over and want you to scratch his belly. If I don't have him on a lead at the moment, I've been just holding onto his collar and walking him to the kennel as I repeat the command. I've told my wife and son to never rub his belly or give him any positive reinforcement when he does this (not sure if my wife is following orders or not . Is there anything else I should be doing, or is this just a phase of testing his boundaries that will pass eventually?
    I'd give him 5 minutes to work on his food, placed in his kennel at mealtime. Then pick the bowl up and put it away until next mealtime. Give all meals in the kennel. He'll start looking forward to mealtime and to getting in his kennel. I'd give him a little food treat each time I crate him when it's not mealtime.

    I'd put him on a check cord long before I know it's kennel time. Then I'd calmly pick up the end, have a food treat in hand, call him happily to "kennel", get him in, and give him his treat with some praise. You should have the rope on him BEFORE he does his lie on the side trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Have you been treat training this pup to familiarize him with basic commands? Why would you ever not have him on a rope or check cord at this stage? Either you are in charge of his behavior, or his moods are. Formal training begins soon. Right now you should be following a puppy program to get him ready.

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    Excellent.......x2 I am a big Check Cord and treat user. I put a pup on a light check cord with No puessure but gental guidance and the "here" command. Before you know it, they come in every time. The cord is about 12' long and on the pup when ever he is out of his kennel. They drag that cord in the house, in the fenced yard, on the trail, in the field, to the vet's office.....U get the picture. That check cord stays on the pup for about 5 months and until I have them fully collar conditioned to "Here" Just my opinion. Don

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    Place / Kennel training ( with treats and leash/check cord) will have this fixed in a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonBrou View Post
    Use the ear to get him in the kennel. It won't take but a couple of times for him to figure it out. Then he'll gladly kennel up.
    REALLY ??? 13 weeks old.....
    How bout we throw some cookies in the kennel and say "kennel" , rinse , repeat over a few days then start to say "kennel" first and likely he will jump in the kennel , throw him a cookie and don't slamb the door closed on him, pet him up , holding him in the kennel , then close the door quietly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    REALLY ??? 13 weeks old.....
    How bout we throw some cookies in the kennel and say "kennel" , rinse , repeat over a few days then start to say "kennel" first and likely he will jump in the kennel , throw him a cookie and don't slamb the door closed on him, pet him up , holding him in the kennel , then close the door quietly.
    What Bridget said....exactly, except we don't do the loving up bit with the door open, as smart & fast as some of these puppies are, they'd see an escape opportunity pretty quickly if we did and I'm too old and slow to prevent it.

    We keep a box of treats on top of the kennel. Our pup will run to the kennel, jump in, sit down and wait for her treat if you say the kennel word now. She just turned 4 months old. She did go through a little stubborn streak at first but quickly learned that she will get a cookie if she will just go in. By the way, we are using small milk bones and I break them into smaller pieces, even just single piece of her normal food will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    REALLY ??? 13 weeks old.....
    How bout we throw some cookies in the kennel and say "kennel" , rinse , repeat over a few days then start to say "kennel" first and likely he will jump in the kennel , throw him a cookie and don't slamb the door closed on him, pet him up , holding him in the kennel , then close the door quietly.
    X2 toss some of his favorite treats in there and when he goes in to get them say kennel! When he does give some verbal praise! Kennels are good places not punishment!! He's a pup everything is GOOD no ear pinch at that age please!!

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