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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick_C View Post
    "Shall" means just that. You can't do it....and be within the rules that is.

    Hunt test dog, gun dog or field trial dog, you always want them to be underwhelmed at tests/trials or hunting. Most HT people I've trained with will throw 200 - 300 yard marks at least occasionally to prepare their dog to be underwhelmed at tests. Marks from 100 - 250 yds were the norm for my last training group. We would then throw in check down birds/shorter marks as we neared a HT so the dogs didn't overrun everything.
    You probably better tell the judges that, I was at a few tests last year were one was in the 180 range , and another test had a flower pot double at 170 yards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Nutt View Post
    I finally found the rule change. It was in a letter sent out as someone mentioned above. I copied the pertinent parts below:

    1. Distance in Master Tests. Test distances in the Master level test should not normally exceed 150 yards. (Previously 100 yards.) Distances in Junior and Senior tests will remain unchanged (should not normally exceed 100 yards). Chapter 5, Section 1.
    Note: Clubs may no longer state in the event premium that marks and blinds may be in excess of the “should not normally exceed” clause.
    2. Clarification of a Triple. In Master level tests where a dog is required to retrieve a triple mark, to clarify, the following wording has been added - “The three falls must be presented before a dog is sent to retrieve any mark or blind.” Chapter 5, Section 7.
    Isn't the wording "should not" and not "shall not"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas D View Post
    Isn't the wording "should not" and not "shall not"?
    "Should not" is correct.
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    And therein lies the problem. When it stated should not normally exceed 100 yds there were always judges pushing out to 120-130 yds. Now that it states 150 yds, there will be judges that have to push out to 170-180 yds. Today in training we ran 4 marks, 2 check down at 100 or so yds, 1 at 200 yds and one at 250-275 yds. Even with white on, the long gunner was hard to see with the dead yellow grass and the sun overhead. How much harder for the dog when there is nothing to focus on.
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    Exactly. Although I think the intent was to give judges options when faced with no terain, it will soon be what you said with other factors to deal with.
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    Does anyone think this will make a big difference in success rates?

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