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Labrador Retriever, a 20g & grouse...is there a better combination?
"I would like to hear from anyone who has tried hunting grouse w/ a pointing Lab. I’ve used both Setters & Springers and it seems like when I’ve got a Setter in front of me, I wish I had a flusher to get in there so I could stay outside & shoot"
I do, and that is the main bird we hunt here in NW MI. Very skittish birds, they see lots of pressure, but I stopped posting on these threads a long time ago. Dave if you really would like to hear about PLs hunting ruffed grouse PM me.
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GMPR HRCH HRKs Liberators Outlaw "Rondo" SH
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I all honesty it's very hard to get anything done with dial-up, even here. That and I am puter challenged, but not so on PLs or being a dedicated to them and hunting grouse with them.
Train for Total Confidence not Total Compliance
------------->"Let 'em Roll"<--------------
4xGMPR HRCH Sauble River "Gator"
GMPR HRCH HRKs Liberators Outlaw "Rondo" SH
GMPR VeraGators Smokin' Diablo of G'Force "Smokey"
---> Outlaw Upland~Waterfowl Labs <---
[QUOTE=Dave Flint;1081065]I guess I’m never going to understand why someone would want to hunt pheasants w/ a pointing dog. Pheasants and flushing dogs were made for each other.
We hunt both our labs and our "pointy" dogs on pheasants as well as other upland birds. Up until last season, the labs usually put up more pheasants than the pointy guys. But, it wasn't ever a big difference. It just depends on the terrain we are hunting. As I'm sure everyone on this forum that hunts wild pheasants already knows - ditch dragons are clever bastards that like the nastiest cover they can find. That's why a flushing dog "usually" is the first choice. Most roosters won't hold for a point once the season is well underway and the birds know the game. But last season, my red setter Robert pointed and held more pheasants than my lab, Sarge, who is a super-duper pheasant dog.
One of my two BEST phez hunting stories this past season was with my red guy. (The other BEST phez day was the one with Sarge - my avator pic).
Robert (the red guy) and I were hunting along an irrigation ditch. Only two days left open for pheasant - eastern Washington. Quail was still open, but our focus was on roosters and I had "late season" shotgun shells and chokes. As Robert worked the cover I followed as quietly as possible. No whistles, no voice, no nothing. As we neared the end of the field, I lost sight of Robert. I knew he was up ahead and figured he was on a point near the thick cover. I continued on, ever so quietly, and four quail flushed in front of me. Without a second thought, I blasted away - twice. Missing (note - I'm normally a lousy shot). I reloaded and looked for Robert. I "beep-beeped" on his collar - which is our stealthy communication which means "here." But, he didn't show. So, I thought, he must still be on a point. I continued on and two more quail flushed from the heavy brush - again I shot twice - and missed (and cussed). I looked up and saw Robert pointing back into the thick brush/trees up to my right about 35-40 yards. Well, I KNOW it must be more quail because I've been hunting wild pheasants for over 20 years in eastern Washington and no way would they be holding after all my shooting (and cussing) this late in the season. So, I decided not to waste any more of my "phez" loads on quail that I obviously wasn't hitting. As I walked toward him, Robert glanced over at me only moving his eyes and then looked back - he was on a solid point. I was holding my gun in my left hand as I went in to flush the quail. Five hens and three roosters flushed! All within gun range. Ha! Guess I don't know everything about late season roosters.
Thanks for the story. Please tell me that you hit at least one of those roosters. Robert deserved it.
Howard Niemi
"you don't get trapping advice from a trapper with no pelts on his wall" from Guy Burnett via Marvin Sundstom in 2013