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    Do you think I am teaching bad habit?

    I stick a blind pole marker at the line, sit my dog, walk out, throw a mark, stay out in field, send dog on her name.

    She retrieves the bird to me.

    I line her back to the blind pole , AND SEND HER ON "BACK" to put her at the same spot at the line.
    She will run straight to the pole, and sit down.

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    Can you teach her to drop birds in a bucket next to the pole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTS View Post
    Dennis Voigt's training alone video and articles describes this in detail.......
    I do it from time to time. It is an easy way to do walking single by yourself. Once the dog gets it, they run right back to the pole and sit waiting for the next mark. The down side is that when using BB 's, mine will start to run back to the BB with the duck until they realize I am at the line. No big deal, though.

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    Gooser It sounds as if she is doing great running this way. How far out are you throwing the marks?

    I have to train most days this way. My marks are some short, some long and some very long. I find very few issues with this method. In fact when I go for training in a group Tar runs just as if he had someone throwing for him all the time. When I am throwing he runs for the mark not at me. And running back to the bag I just want him to go in a straight line not wander. I don't use a pole, just my bumper bag. Sometimes I don't send him back to the bag, but I walk out to another spot and throw. Great way to train and steady the dog. I do marks all over and on different terrain and in the water. Works really good!! All my info came from Dennis Voigt's DVD and he explains it really well.
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    Do you think I am teaching bad habit?
    I would say absolutely not. Welcome to the crowd.
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    My concern is sending on "back",, then sometimes handeling her to the pole to sit..

    Its like I am running a blind,, but no bird planted... Thats what I am concerned about....

    She seems to understand,, cause most times she runs right to the pole sits,,,, turns around and looks at me wanting the throw..

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    It's been awhile since I watched the DVD, but I think Dennis uses a white bucket or something to that effect, so there is no doubt as to the destination.
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    Maybe I misunderstand, but it sounds as if you are using "back" when you mean something like "place"? Or "kennel"?
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    The only negative I see to stand alone's ( used to do ALOT of them) is the dog takes his eye off of the mark when it hits the ground and looks to YOU the gunner befor he/she is sent. I have a 21/2 year old that loves to run at the gun rather than the bird, and if you wait him out long enough he will eventaily look back at the bird, if you wait him out long enough but will always run to where his eyes are pointing. Did this come from doing alot of stand alone's as a young dog?? I don't know but I do know running at the gun is a recipie for alot of green ribbons in the future....

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    I use, "Back." I leaned this training technique from Len Ferucci. He used, "Back."
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