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    You are a judge and setting up a water series but due to limited options one bird is quite cheaty. Dog A stays wet all the way while Dog B runs most of the bank and then gets wet. Both dogs go straight to the bird. How would you score it?
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    How could they both go straight if they took different lines? Unless you mean one curved in on the bank and one out in the water... Maybe a drawing of what you mean?
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    The line or path taken to the bird do not matter. What matters is if the dogs had a "mark" or not. If both dogs got to the area of the fall and immediately came up with the bird then they did an equal job. You would need to look at their other work to place one above the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breck View Post
    The line or path taken to the bird do not matter. What matters is if the dogs had a "mark" or not. If both dogs got to the area of the fall and immediately came up with the bird then they did an equal job. You would need to look at their other work to place one above the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjrice View Post
    You are a judge and setting up a water series but due to limited options one bird is quite cheaty. Dog A stays wet all the way while Dog B runs most of the bank and then gets wet. Both dogs go straight to the bird. How would you score it?
    Based on what you are telling me, they are equivalent.
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    Breck, Wade, and Ted. How many derby judges will judge like that though?

    Seems like staying wet wins.
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    I would hope they would not give "more water" the benefit--after all, this is the derby--natural marking vs. trained attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    Breck, Wade, and Ted. How many derby judges will judge like that though?

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    Not many. I think most derby judges judge lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    Breck, Wade, and Ted. How many derby judges will judge like that though?

    Seems like staying wet wins.
    If you go buy the rule book, I do not see how a judge should differentiate between the scoring of the marks. It cleary states that we are judging marking and not training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjrice View Post
    If you go buy the rule book, I do not see how a judge can differentiate between the scoring of the marks. It cleary states that we are judging marking and not training.

    I think Howard is simply expressing what happens in the real world. And unfortunately, I agree with his assessment.
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