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    I don't plan to ever duck as I am an avid bow hunter. Hobbies get expensive so keeping them minimal. Retrieving... is it just that?

    IE. When you train to retrieve ducks are the same principles applied to small game birds. I occasionally go to Texas and hunt with my dad over quail/dove. The small bird population in NW Arkansas is not the best but they are here. So it would be nice to have my lab retrieve those birds. Also, I was wondering if y'all train your dogs to be multi-purpose dogs. Shed hunting is something I am interested in. (Bow Hunter) I wasn't sure if this confuses the dog or just makes him that much better as a retriever. Just would like opinions in the direction I should take my dog. Either one or the other is fine.

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    I've trained labs to both duck hunt and retrieve sheds. Retrievers are amazingly adaptable to many different "sports" or skills. The foundation training, or obedience is key to success and while young your goal should be to help the dog build good work ethics, team work, focus and most of all momentum. Momemtum in short is drive, desire, attitude etc. The training program and your style should be based on education first, later balanced with fair discipline on a consistent basis. Keep that in mind and you can do about anything you'd ever want to do with your dog.

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    Thanks Paul. I thought they'd be a great multi-purpose dog. What are the thoughts of ducks vs small birds? Is the training process simalar in nature?

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    I believe, at UK field trials, dogs are sent for feathers and/or fur.

    In New Zealand, Curly-Coated Retrievers are used to hunt deer.

    Versatility is the name of the game.
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    A properly force fetched dog will retrieve what it is sent after whether a duck, dove or antler. As an avid bowhunter a blood trailing dog would probably be more valuable to you. I had a duck dog that was also a pretty decent blood trail dog. Found more than a few deer.

    Most retrieving breeds can be taught all of these tasks. I know my lab could do both.
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    I have hunted with a Lab:
    grouse ( ruff & spruce)
    woodcock
    ducks
    geese
    rabbits
    squirels
    and trailed a down deer for me once.
    Labrador Retriever, a 20g & grouse...is there a better combination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Roux View Post
    I don't plan to ever duck as I am an avid bow hunter. Hobbies get expensive so keeping them minimal. Retrieving... is it just that?
    Have a guy out here who hunts ducks-geese with a bow, there are arrows and everything for it, can't say he's very successful, the birds have to be very locked in on a spread, but it is fun to watch
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    Large birds vs small birds, training is the same. Be mindful small birds are easier to chomp and with some dogs that is a larger problem for them.

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    Your Lab is more than capable of retrieving small game (such as quail) and shed hunting. In regards to training, do want your dog to quarter and flush, or simply walk at heel and retrieve shot game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Keene View Post
    Your Lab is more than capable of retrieving small game (such as quail) and shed hunting. In regards to training, do want your dog to quarter and flush, or simply walk at heel and retrieve shot game?
    It's shed hunting that I would more than likely lean towards. So quarter and flush, this way he learns to hunt the wind a pick up the smell of the sheds. And I can imagine bow hunting water fowl is a sight to watch.

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