The RetrieverTraining.Net Forums The Retriever Academy
Total Retriever Training with Mike Lardy
Hawkeye Media Gunners Up Tritronics Outdoor Media
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 37

Thread: Lesson of the LIVE FLIER STATION and other newbie facts.

  1. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Huntington, WV
    Posts
    235

    Default

    Where is the purples bears cudas with the huggers oranges when I needs a GTO on the 4 on theo floors??

  2. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Huntington, WV
    Posts
    235

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hotel4dogs View Post
    great post, thanks!!
    No monster just a very nice pretty golden I need to get a girl for hims

  3. #13
    Senior Member John Lash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    Posts
    1,909

    Default

    Good for you for trying. Derbies are fun and I encourage more people to try them.

    It's funny that some say that "marks can't be that hard, after all there is a guy in a white coat standing near it." Many times it's the guy in the white coat that is close that prevents the dog from ever seeing the guy in the white coat that is far.
    John Lash

    "If you run Field Trials, you learn to swallow your disappointment quickly."

    "Field trials are not a game for good dogs. They're for great dogs with great training." E. Graham

  4. #14
    Senior Member Wayne Nutt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Ft. Worth, TX
    Posts
    4,370

    Default

    My unique experience with a flyer. It was a AKC ht, senior level with Hudson. It was a double, flyer was go bird. Watched memory bird down, then flyer was shot. Sent Hudson. He gets about 3/4 the way to the shot flyer. He makes an abrupt turn to the gun station and is circling aroung the gun station like crazy.

    I'm in a blind panic. He comes back with the bird. I send for memory bird and he returns with it. The judges and I am in the dark as to what went on. They thought maybe an extra duck had got out of the crate.

    One of the judges walks out to the gun station to find out what went on.

    The gunners explained: they only barely cripped the duck. They were afraid to sluice it as the dog was in the field. The duck ran back to the gun station and was trying to get back in the crate, I guess.

    We passed. But I don't want to go through that again.
    Wayne Nutt
    Go Nutts with dog training

    HRCH Patton's Parker Co. Shadow "Shadow"
    HRCH Clineline Hijacker "Jack"
    HRCH Marks a Lot Midnight Hudson, SH "Hudson"-retired
    Castile Creek's Rawhide, SH "Rowdy"

  5. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    1,090

    Default

    Now you know. Make your own flier station in training and practice looking past it to a much less obvious gun station at a big distance. It would be good to get the dog in the habit of looking past multiple short guns and to a long gun in training. It's the little things like that that add up quick.

  6. #16
    Senior Member Brad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Tyler, TX
    Posts
    1,328

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by featherqwest View Post
    Where is the purples bears cudas with the huggers oranges when I needs a GTO on the 4 on theo floors??
    ???????????

  7. #17
    Senior Member davewolfe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    mid missouri
    Posts
    304

    Default

    This is the progression of how it has work for me. Go to a test or trial, find out what you need to work on.(more to the affect of getting your a*s handed to me) Can't get upset, learn from it and go back home and try your best to train the way you trial. Evently you will be prepared for what ever they throw at you.

    I entered a young dog in a junor a few years ago, he does a nice job on the flyer. I too lined for memory bird, I thought we had it. He breaks down,heads back to flyes station. He ran to the bird crate and started barking at the ducks in the crate, I had to walk out to get him, he was not going to leave that bird crate.

  8. #18
    Senior Member Breck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Elverson, PA
    Posts
    2,431

    Default

    Good for you for running. Look at any field trial call backs posted on the events page and many many very good dogs don't make it past the 1st series. It won't be the last time but of course train as if your going to win each weekend.
    Have Hubby stand a short station holding live duck hen by the feet. (not going to shoot it, you can keep it alive for months if you want). You concentrate on getting dog to watch a long mark, throw and retrieve it. All the while hubby is moving arm and duck up & down getting duck to flap its wings and hopefully quack up a storm (reason to use a hen). Dats dat.
    The least of your worries is which side dogs was on. While helpful if you train for it, it didn't matter much I'm afraid.
    "Darla" AFC Candlewoods Lil Smokin Tequila (2002-2013)(fondly remembered)
    "Smoke" Smokin Auggies Menace, QAA (2003- )(retired nut case, ask Rando)
    "Simba" Humewood Simba (1999-2014)(my 1st dog)

    .
    Per favore, non mi rompere i coglioni.
    Grazie




  9. #19
    Senior Member Mary Lynn Metras's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Watford, ONT
    Posts
    3,785

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    Some things to think about:
    1. As dog is returning, blow whistle to break dog focus on flier.
    2. As dog heels in, emphasize where you want dog to sit. Do not let dog look at flyer
    3. If dog focuses on flyer, and you cannot break attention, put out hand in direction of flyer. Say "here."
    4. If that doesn't work, heel to flyer station. Put hand out. Say "no."
    5. Re-heel dog. Hand out. "Here". If you get change, take your time
    6. Pray
    Good for you Jen. I am really glad you went. This is good advice Ted is giving. Thanks Ted
    HRCH Scaupgetters Tarnation QAA
    http://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=83047
    HR Blackie 2 CGN, WCI
    Metras's Hashtag Mickey
    http://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=83051



    "Knowing how important right timing is in accomplishing right actions"
    Uncle Ray

  10. #20
    Senior Member huntinman's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    7,172

    Default

    Jen, it's the whole package. The flyer station... The excitement... The fresh shot duck... The trucks... The gallery... The judges... The marshal yelling the numbers... The chairs... The mat... The holding blinds... All of it was a whole new experience. You are not the first and won't be the last to say "she never did that before"!

    Live shot flyers at a trial are WAY more exciting to a dog than duck hunting... They feel the pressure. In hunting the pressure is off for the most part.

    You did better than my first derby attempt. My dog nearly caught the bird as it bounced on the ground! I was too dumbfounded to yell sit when he took off because "he had never done that before"!!
    Last edited by huntinman; 03-23-2013 at 07:12 PM.
    Bill Davis

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •