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    My last 2 dogs have a problem with angle entries into the water on blinds. They want to square early and get in the water. This is obviously due to an imbalance in my training and they are not comfortable.

    What are some of the drills you do for this. It has not been a problem with marks, only blinds.

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    take a look at Mr. Farmers pattern field thread.

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    Chair Drills.
    Place chair with white coat near waters edge just to the side of line to blind. Place Chair on other side of channel or pond at exit point.
    If you're working on multi entries/re-entries, like 3 or 5, teach last third of blind, then last 2/3 the the whole thing all with chairs.
    Come back and run without chairs.
    Criteria for recall is dog needs to brush past chairs on land and while swimming head "reasonably close" to "right at" next chair.
    This will get you where you want to go..
    use for teaching angle entry on cheating marks as well.

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    your bumpers should be visible to a swimming dog. Prop one up sitting vertical at waters edge. Same for marks but have thrower toss one on land behind target bumper.
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    I try to find a spot where I can set up several angle entry as a pattern. Start at water edge run your pattern. Continue to back up over time,up hold your standard as you back up. When you feel this is going really well, go find a new spot. In my opinion this is some thing you have to maintain, more or less depending on the dog.

    The other pattern you could run, find a square pond. establish a pile on other side that would be a square entry. Then move your line to make more of an angle entry.
    http://dobbsdogs.com/library/retrievers/rj15.html
    Here is also some idea from dobbs dogs web site.

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    Chair Drills....
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    Sight blinds in a small rectangular pond or across a channel. Initially use a large white bumper and send close to the water's edge. The swim should be short the reward quick allowing to run multiple blinds with the water to your right and left,without fatigue. As you achieve success increase the angle of the entry and your distance from the water's edge.
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    Here's a setup I used with Gunny. The "faux shrubs" made the concept work. He did many "reps" with increasing entry distances and more challenging angles. We occasionally revisit that corner (without "shrubs") for maintenance.

    "easiest"


    "tighter"


    "final angle"'


    "spacing view"
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    In the early stages I would use a pile to increase distance but not the angle changes. The dog will have a tendency to enter the water the same way & at the same spot to get to the same pile. Okay for distance but as the angle changes the dog needs to enter the water differently.

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    Tune up drills

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