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    I have a dog I want to get a jh title on next month He gets exited at the line, does this effect his scoring with akc. also any suggestions how to stop this.

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    a "no here" and bring them back to the line then hold muzzle and a cupped hand under the snout with a "quiet". let the dog know he wont get a retrieve if he makes noise when leaving the line

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    I wouldn't try to stop it, by putting pressure on it, (attrition is pressure), you may make it worse. A little yelp of excitement as the dog launches is no big deal in AKC, as a judge I actually like seeing that kind of energy. Also that problem will go away by itself as the dog matures and running marks becomes routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    I wouldn't try to stop it, by putting pressure on it, (attrition is pressure), you may make it worse. A little yelp of excitement as the dog launches is no big deal in AKC, as a judge I actually like seeing that kind of energy. Also that problem will go away by itself as the dog matures and running marks becomes routine.
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    Sometimes.......
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    Tighten up the dogs line manners, and challenge the dog. It will probably improve. I'd be much more concerned about noise while the birds were going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
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    I think we need to make a distinction between the typical vocal dog that whines or even barks on line in anticipation versus the little yelp or bark as the dog launches. I believe that stopping the dog in the second scenario and using a zero tolerance approach is more likely to lead to that first situation problem dog. That's just my opinion, maybe Randy B can pipe in on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
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    i've seen one first hand where it wasnt nipped in the bud and you are exactly right. it will become a problem and common occurence. mine started doing it and first time it happened called him back and did what i mentioned (saw Lardy do it on his TRM video) and resent and not a peep but still same if not more amount of desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    I think we need to make a distinction between the typical vocal dog that whines or even barks on line in anticipation versus the little yelp or bark as the dog launches. I believe that stopping the dog in the second scenario and using a zero tolerance approach is more likely to lead to that first situation problem dog. That's just my opinion, maybe Randy B can pipe in on this.

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    I am quite clear what the OP was referring to, noise once released.
    A yelp on release.
    It is not a mark down for training.
    So I pick my fights.

    Not referrencing line manners at all.
    Been down that road.



    And, it has not gone away, some dogs just want more.

    Sorry if my post was confusing.


    BTW---mine sits, quivering, until released, then lets out a YELP and gets him some bird!
    Didn't used to be that way....................
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    Here's what the rulebook says:
    Section 10. In Junior, Senior and Master Hunting
    Tests, a dog shall come tractably at heel and sit promptly
    at the point designated by its handler and remain
    quietly where placed until given further orders. Dogs
    that bark or whine on line, in a blind or while retrieving
    shall be scored low in Trainability. Loud and prolonged
    barking or whining is sufficient cause to justify grading a
    dog “0” in Trainability.

    In reality, good judges don't make a big deal of the situation you described. There are other references to barking in that it is a "minor fault" unless prolonged.
    Tom Dorroh

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    HAS he been forced and developed a habit of yipping in response to pressure, or is he just excited?
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