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    Default Derby year?

    If my pup was born 11-26-12 when is her derby year up? Just trying to understand this new world.

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    She will be too old to run derbies on 11-26-14. She may start running derbies when she is 6 months old. However I think the last 6-8 months of their derby career is when most dogs will rack up the points if they have it in them to do so.

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    It actually depends on when The Open starts in relation to a birthdate. It's possible to turn 2 and still be able to run that weekend only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Hawkes View Post
    It actually depends on when The Open starts in relation to a birthdate. It's possible to turn 2 and still be able to run that weekend only.
    Please explain?
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    SECTION 10. A Derby Stake at a Retriever trial
    shall be for dogs which have not reached their second
    birthday on the first day of the trial at which they are
    being run. For example, a dog whelped May 1, 1983,
    would not be eligible for Derby Stakes at a trial starting
    May 1, 1985, but would be eligible at a trial the first
    day of which was April 30, 1985. Derby stake tests
    are limited to marked retrieves and dogs which are
    handled on such retrieves shall be eliminated from
    competition.

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    If I am not mistaken, the AKC has ruled that - despite this language - if the "derby" not the "trial" starts on the dog's second birthday, you are not eligible
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    Ted, have you run into that personally? Seems like AKC would be going against their own printed rules.
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    Thanks guys,
    and what does a derby consist of? How do you go through the process of winning one? And when someone says the word "Jam" what are they saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    If I am not mistaken, the AKC has ruled that - despite this language - if the "derby" not the "trial" starts on the dog's second birthday, you are not eligible
    a really good young dog breeder would never even look into their whelping box to see if the pups are born yet until whatever date two years later lands on at least a sunday.

    kidding aside does anyone know of anyone reporting later than actual birthdays a day or two to give their pups an extra derby weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau M. View Post
    Thanks guys,
    and what does a derby consist of? How do you go through the process of winning one? And when someone says the word "Jam" what are they saying?
    JAM is an acronym for Judges Award of Merit. Basically it means a dog completed the trial.

    "Typical" derby is 4 series; each series is a double---2 land series followed by 2 water series.

    It is for pups aged 6 to 24 mos.

    Although handling is an automatic DQ, most pups are running blinds by the time they do derby. Pups who mark well and have been de-cheated on water and taught to fight factors like wind and terrain can do well.

    At the end of the trial the pups who finish are ranked, judges can give out 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place and a RJ (reserve JAM, sort of like 5th place). I have limited experience but the rest of the pups who finish seem to get JAMs.
    Last edited by mitty; 04-05-2013 at 02:20 PM. Reason: clarification
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