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Thread: Can I run a jr and sr on the same day?

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    Senior Member Mark Teahan's Avatar
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    Default Can I run a jr and sr on the same day?

    Trap needs 2 more passes to get his jr title.
    Was wondering if we can run a jr hunt test, then go over to the sr test and try for our first pass on the same day?
    Trap is doing real well, and thought we'd give it a shot.
    We both need some experience, and nothing to lose, but 70 bucks,
    Or should we just wait til next fall and just watch and learn sr now?

    Any helpful tips or thoughts?

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    I did it years ago and passed both, but is there really a rush? Also, depending on the dog, running him a lot in a short time can produce excitement on his part, causing you to lose some control on a young dog that may not be easy to overcome later. As I said, I did it; I won't again, but my dog was already eager to start with and my decision made me work to keep that in check in future events.

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    folks call it double staking.
    yes you are able to do this.
    clubs love it, extra $$$ from the same dog.
    dogs love it, extra birds on the same weekend.
    training may take a dive and at the end your
    hinnie will be dragging from bouncing round the event.
    in the past I have done it, looking back now I say
    why bother?
    If you just shoot for the sr title the junior will be moot.
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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    Hunt tests are here only twice a year.
    I would like to title trap at least in Jr this month.
    Getting a start or an attempt at Sr would give me a chance to know if we are ready.
    Team work!
    He may be able to do it, but can I not goof up in handling?
    Im kinda looking at it as a practice round to see if we both know what we are doing.

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    another worry is if your sunday senior is in the same field as one of your saturday juniors. may or may not be an issue. but I have seen some young dogs go hunt the other days aof.
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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    Mark, Go for it if you do not want to do much of traveling. At least you can get a gauge on the next level and that may help your training.
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    My club does a Gun dog of the Year award. If you get the high number of points from passes and titles at the club tests... So basically you have to do it that way to win the trophy.
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    Might be the Captain Obvious in me but if you do I assume you'll run your Junior marks from the line as if in Senior? No restraint on marks, no lead to the line, collar-less?
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    Also, I'd like to add that you can only double stake in AKC hunt tests if I am not mistaken.
    The HRC does not allow dogs to double stake on a single test day. You could run started on Saturday and seasoned Sunday, but not both on one day.

    Someone please correct me if I am wrong
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    use whatever tools the rule let you. show off in your training group. at a test just get the ribbon and thank the judges.
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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