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    Default Homemade Force Fetch Dummies?

    My dog and I have been through the Hillman puppy program. We are now on Lardy's DVDs and just started force fetch with ear pinch. She has hold down pretty well and will heel, come, and sit while holding. I like to mix in some breaking retrieves while working on ear pinch to keep her spirits up. However, she has a bad habit of cigaring the bumper or carrying it by the rope on the retrieve. I can't work on hold with her as she is coming back to me because she is holding it wrong to begin with. I tried tieng the rope in knots to shorten it but it didn't help much. Has anyone just made their own wooden dummies using a dowel and squares from a 2x4? Something like this but square ends instead of diamond:

    http://www.gundogsupply.com/wodifotrbu.html

    This is my first time to force fetch a dog. Just wasn't sure if it was OK to make something like this to work on force fetch and use it on breaking retrieves until she is through force fetch and stops cigaring so much.

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    If you can't get the desired retrieve and return stop throwing fun bumpers until you can.

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    No fun retrieves until force fetch is done........Lots of other stuff you can do that do not include retrieves.

    I start with a wood FF buck. Made out of 2 pieces of 3/4" plywood, 4" square with a 1" wood dowel for a center bar. They have to grab it in the middle and when moving to the floor the cross bar is up off the floor, for an easy grab. Don

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    Cut the rope off your bumper.

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    I didn't see Lardy using fun bumpers during ear pinch, but I just thought of it since keeping the dogs spirits high is stressed a lot in Hillman's program. Wouldn't using the wooden buck from ear pinch on a fun bumper force her to hold it correctly and not cigar? This was my thinking.

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    Just keep putting the bumper in the correct position and praise for doing it right. Correct for doing it wrong.

    Is the dog showing stress. bad attitude, lack of intrest? or are you throwing the fun bumpers for your own ego? If the dog doesnt need it, wait till you are finished FF. If they really need their spirits picked up throw a ball or one of their toys.

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    Paint rollers work great and are cheap. Dogs love them and they are easy to pick up!!
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    Here's a FF buck that I made years ago with dowel rods, a drill and a couple screws. It has held up nicely - even to these vicious non-retrievers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackh View Post
    .... Has anyone just made their own wooden dummies using a dowel and squares from a 2x4? .
    ^^^^^ayup^^^^^
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

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