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    I tried wading through the FT/HT thread but didnt find what I was looking for.... My question is what is expected at the derby level in a FT. What would an example run look like? I had been thinking of doing HT, but there are several FT coming to the area this summer and the trainer I have been working with has suggested FT. I think I/we would blow by JH and are close to SH in the HT world, I just dont know that much about FT. Oh, and are there any good books on FT's for labs out there?

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    I have seen a couple of videos of derby runs. Maybe do a google search. There isn't a standard as to distances like there is in hunt tests.

    In the derby there are no blinds. Generally two doubles: one on land and one on water.

    I would suggest: "Retriever Field Trial Judging, A Manual". Available through The Retriever News for about $20.

    Having said all that I have never run a debry but am getting ready to this fall.
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    There are typically 4 series in a derby, not 2.
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    What is the age cut off for derby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by n m mechanical View Post
    What is the age cut off for derby?
    6 months to 2 years old.
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    Usually there are 4 series.
    Usually they are all doubles, but you may see a single from time to time.
    I have heard of triples being thrown, but never seen one, I assume they are rare.
    Usually there are two land series, and two water series.
    Distances can vary from 40 yards to over 300 yards.

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    here is the 4th series of a derby we ran last fall. Go bird was a flyer on the left at about 10 o'clock into the water. Memory bird on right, you can see gunner thrown to the lone tree, was about 250 yards with some in and outs. Very tough mem bird! Photo not taken from the line, line is about 20 -30 yards to my left.

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    Derby is not for beginner handlers or beginner dogs. Field is usually made up of experienced handlers and very well trained dogs. Even though the dogs are young the ribbons go to we'll trained dogs.even though entries are small they are chasing derby points.
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    Second series of same derby. Go bird on left thrown back along tree line into the shadows. Mem bird right, if you followed the road you got in trouble bird thrown to the left. From line severe 40-50 yard down hill through high growth. long bird about 275.

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    Nice pictures of Derby setups. I would suggest you go watch the one in Portland on the second weekend in May and then if it something that you think that you and your dog could do, than you can sign up for the Junction City trials.
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