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"Hunting is a skill to be learned whether you do it early or late it still needs to be learned"
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So I keep the food up to avoid a problem, but sometimes I wonder if I am just avoiding a problem that I could remedy if I knew how.
Last edited by Renee P.; 04-19-2013 at 02:03 PM.
Never heard of the guy watched video. Been chewed up a few times. Former PSD, military trainer, dog needs a lead on strong collar , choke chain and take him into a airplane swing round and round, drop on ground, try it again if he persists. That type of food removal should start as a 12 week old! Guy in my opinion to get in dog's face with dog like posturing is kinda wacko. The worse bite you can have is from a dog that doesn't knowhow to bite, will leash climb and go for the face, not a trained bite dog going for appendage or a body hold. Geeze and people buy his material!
Renee'Pete, do you think that food aggressive dog in the video could be rehabilitated? Would it ever be reliable around food?
My older lab gets scary around food with other animals/pets. Blood has never been shed, and she has never been aggressive to people, but I don't trust her.
Most dogs can be successfully rehabilitated , BUT,,, and thats a but with a capital B,,,most people can't be made to change their habit patterns and the way they deal with dogs.
Dogs rank themselves per individual whether human or dog.. So lets say I get a dog to let me touch it and take its food away while eating or even leaving a room if I enter while its eating,,,that does not mean that the dog now does this when any one touches the dog or takes its food away. Only when I do it. So now the owners of the dog must learn to do what counters this ,, AND with a capital A,,,they must do it that way for a long time. Some people are great learners and take whats taught to heart. The majority doesn't or can't and in a few months the dog slides back to the way it was. Then when they try to do what was taught ,,the techniques or way of doing things have morphed so much because they haven't been doing it correctly from the start (due to an apathetic mind set) that they can't get it done.
Its actually simple to change behavior and thinking patterns in a dog,,,people can be a major pain in the arse.
Some people are very successful in the long run and many are not because of the human variable.
I disagree with most of what you wrote. Am I allowed to say that to an Icon of the retriever sports. (smile emoticon insert)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalms 12: 8
The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exulted
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
If Cesar has helped educate the general public to walk their dog and show the dog some limits and train consistently and patiently, that's a good thing. If only a fraction of the public took some of his stuff to heart, maybe we'd have fewer dogs in shelters and pounds.
"Determining and applying the criteria for when and when not to use correction is the essence of the art of dog training. I make a distinction between a mistake and a lack of effort." - Mike Lardy - Volume I "After Collar Conditioning"
I think Bora needs to make a video on how to use a rope with a dog. He'd be "Rope Commander"...probably make millions on A&E
I gotta chime in and defend Cesar - I really admire what he does, and hey, if he can make a living at it more power to him. If you watch enough of the old "Dog Whisperer" episodes you will see him work with a wide variety of dogs and their issues - shy timid dogs to very aggressive. Dogs DO respond very well to his approach, much of which is common sense (which too many dog owners lack!). It can be hard for those of us who TRAIN our dogs to relate, as Cesar claims he does NOT train the dogs but trains their humans. Our dogs, being trained from a young age generally don't develop major behavior issues. But the average pet dog does not have that advantage. I suspect Cesar has saved a good many dogs from being 'dumped' over the years, and that is a good thing.
Even if the owners get the dog to back down, what's gonna happen when it is around other people? That is why most people have dogs, to hang out with them. Pet dogs are always around other people. And the people are clueless. One day someone will not be paying attention, and the baby will walk by the dog holding a hotdog and bam! Dog goes ballistic. Scares the crap out of me.
I guess I think that labrador retrievers aren't supposed to be like that.
Ok,Ok, Chris and Pete I did A generalization of watching single few minute video, made a shot from the hip statement on the basis of watching a person get in a posturing, face close to a growling aggressive dog and got bit, hand and groin area. I apologize, but, still think for a moment the guy who got bit shown in the video for that moment was a wacko.
Whew what a mouthful! I maybe wrong as I haven't seen his otherwise brilliant reviews by some. Retrievers that don!'t bite are much easier for the ikon to digest. Plus I was bored and waiting to go to meet my co-judge for Saturdays hunt test to do our set-ups.