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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie Spann View Post
    Go back home. Why get in a hurry now? After all he is already 4 years old and "working near the finished level."

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumk9wi View Post
    If this hasn't already happened to you, there is good chance it will.

    What would you do if you have traveled to your training spot (20min away) and found that you have forgotten the e-collar at home?

    What would you do for a training session (4yr BLM working near the finished level)?

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    I would call George and ask him to come train with me, he has a pretty good bag of tricks for this kind of training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    I didn't say you couldn't do any meaningful training without a collar. I have forgotten mine and have had them stop working. I don't give up on training that day because I don't have a collar. I might have to change what I was planning but I'd train. At only 20 minutes away, I could go back and get it and I might.

    My problem with Carol's post was her saying that it would be, "Best session you will ever have!".

    To many things can go wrong with a training session to not have all your tools available. To say that it'll be your best session ever seems ludicrous.

    In your example, assume a down the shore mark that the dog caves towards shore, what if the dog won't take the cast? You call him in some, he doesn't take your cast again, rinse and repeat, but each time you do the dog drifts closer and closer to beaching early. Finally it beaches despite all your whistles and call backs. What do you do? With a collar, in the water, I'd whistle, cast, get a dig back; whistle, come in whistle, cast, get a dig back, whistle, call in maybe with a burn; whistle, cast, get a dig back, on the 3rd attempt maybe the 4th attempt I allow the dog to beach, whistle, light him up, call it back into the water, whistle and cast again. Almost always I am successful with this. If I am not I try calling the dog back into the water again and have the gunner throw another bird with the dog seeing it. Then I repeat that mark again. Without a collar you have to let them get away with many repetitions of disobedience, and allowed him to beach early by being disobedient. I don't like that. Have the tools you need.
    I would be inclined not to get into that situation with the dog if you needed the collar.Keep it simple. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    Surprised you aren't out doing pre-Grand training
    I wish you hadn't....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles C. View Post
    I'd do a wagon wheel drill or some simplified marks where I knew that the only correction I would need would be for line manners.
    Ditto. Forgot mine yesterday... Did some no-no drills and simple marks.

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    First it won't happen to me because I use a checklist for things such as this (or it happens way too often).

    Second, it would depend on where the dog was in training, but I would probably do something where correction (other than at my side) would not be called for or highly unlikely to be needed. I'd probably wind up doing walking singles or some kind of no/no drill. They never get too many singles right?
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