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    Quote Originally Posted by Swack View Post
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    I'm not a pointing Lab "trainer", but I would say that if you have to train them to point, they aren't a true pointing Lab. I've had several as an upland hunter, some with pointing Lab ancestry and some from mainstream FT bloodlines. If you are looking for pointing Lab titles you might need some guidance regarding their training, but if you just want a good hunting dog let them discover upland birds and see what happens!

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    Then how come folks train what are considered the standard pointing dogs?? Books are written on that and many send their pointers to pros for training.....

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    Training a dog to point or training a dog to retrieve are both based on assumptions........the dogs are genetically inclined to do either (and possibly both). "Training" a dog with specific instincts requires teaching and developing skills which make the dog's natural/bred traits more useful.

    If the foundation instincts aren't there to begin with......why bother?
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    Train him as he was a GSP, Wirehair or any other pointing breed. Just keep the bird work and retrieving in checks and balances

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    What you do is everytime he pauses or slows down on a bird scream ( No,you are a Labrador retriever not a shorthair!) and nick him with the collar . Hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by misarskennels View Post
    What you do is everytime he pauses or slows down on a bird scream ( No,you are a Labrador retriever not a shorthair!) and nick him with the collar . Hope that helps
    So what makes a PL different then every other dog that points in training

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    Quote Originally Posted by n m mechanical View Post
    So what makes a PL different then every other dog that points in training
    The Lab is from the retriever world and the Pointers are from the Pointer world?
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    So what makes a PL different then every other dog that points in training.
    The owner must develop a "thicker skin"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KwickLabs View Post
    The owner must develop a "thicker skin"!

    lol...but seriously - in 9 of 10 cases I see where a guy has purchased a 'Pointing lab'...the pup and ultimately the dog end up flushing. Mostly, I suspect, because getting any inherent 'point' didn't just 'naturally' occur.

    With Pointers - they unsurprisingly do seem to 'point' naturally.

    Just more than a lick of difference between the Pointer and the Retriever flushing breeds that extend well beyond the 'point'.

    Not to say some folks don't take PL's really seriously and hope for a pup they can work with. But those people aren't typically incidental trainers thinking they bought the best of all worlds for huntng birds.
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    What is an "incidental trainer"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KwickLabs View Post
    What is an "incidental trainer"?
    : occurring merely by chance or without intention or calculation
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