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Thread: What are criteria for determining bitch in season, for trial/test purposes?

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    Default What are criteria for determining bitch in season, for trial/test purposes?

    I gather that if the a bitch showing blood, she is, for test/trial purposes, in season and forbidden from participating in the trial/test. Is this correct?

    The "showing blood" criteria seems rather arbitrary to me, since this goes on for days outside the actual fertile period of the bitch, and certainly the bitch is oozing secretions that are not bloody and urine marking well before they become bloody.

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    I have had the same question and recently called the AKC. The girl gave me Jerry Mann's cell number but I didn't follow up. I just now pulled my dog from a hunt test because she is in season but a hunt test in two weeks also has my interest.
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    Bitch check (when done) consists of a wipe with a dry white tissue. If it's still dry and white, she's not considered to be in season.

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    In the NAVHDA and the German VDD North America tests, a bitch in season runs last. Sooo I am guessing that is not the case with other venues? Don

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    Nope, at retriever events, bitches in heat are verboten. Can't even be on the grounds by AKC rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdgnyc View Post
    I have had the same question and recently called the AKC. The girl gave me Jerry Mann's cell number but I didn't follow up. I just now pulled my dog from a hunt test because she is in season but a hunt test in two weeks also has my interest.
    You do not want to have to deal with someone who is running and messes up because your girl has that sexy odor...Trust me and wait a little past 21 days from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    Nope, at retriever events, bitches in heat are verboten. Can't even be on the grounds by AKC rule.
    That rule is mostly ignored. I've never seen a bitch check except at a national. Technically a bitch can be in season sans discharge
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    Also, that pro running your trial while on a 3-4 trial road trip who scratches a bitch in season who ran the previous week will likely still have that bitch on the truck at the trial. Ever hear an out of town pro ask where the nearest boarding kennel is? Not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    .... Can't even be on the grounds by AKC rule.
    Quote Originally Posted by Breck View Post
    That rule is mostly ignored. . . . . . still have that bitch on the truck at the trial. . . . . !

    BUT...
    on the truck ain't on the ground 's is it?
    nobody clears all the "training" gear that is against the rule out of the truck do we?
    if we did nobody would be able to go down the road and light up Rover 'tween the
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    Actually the boarding kennel near our trial grounds (Pymatuning) has housed several females in heat during the trial over the years.
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    Only ever been to one HT that had a bitch check and that was years ago. Usually the only time a bitch is actually checked is when another competitor complains that some bitch screwed up his dog's chance at a ribbon. And I know of at least one instance where the supposed culprit bitch responsible for the complaineing handler's failure, was a spayed female.
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