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Thread: What are criteria for determining bitch in season, for trial/test purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breck View Post
    That rule is mostly ignored. I've never seen a bitch check except at a national. Technically a bitch can be in season sans discharge
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    Also, that pro running your trial while on a 3-4 trial road trip who scratches a bitch in season who ran the previous week will likely still have that bitch on the truck at the trial. Ever hear an out of town pro ask where the nearest boarding kennel is? Not!
    I think your generalization is just that...when I threw birds for Don Remein this spring he had three bitches in season, he not only had them on a separate truck, he had his assistants aire them in a separate area, and we ran them last in an area we would not use again..He was very careful because he didnt want mess with the minds of the boys..those bitches never even came close to the FT grounds for the whole month...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    Nope, at retriever events, bitches in heat are verboten. Can't even be on the grounds by AKC rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    Only ever been to one HT that had a bitch check and that was years ago. Usually the only time a bitch is actually checked is when another competitor complains that some bitch screwed up his dog's chance at a ribbon. And I know of at least one instance where the supposed culprit bitch responsible for the complaineing handler's failure, was a spayed female.
    Same in field trials, I remember one or two in over fifteen years of trialing, but if the gallery starts to think things smelled fishy when their dogs were on line, there always seems to be a vet handy to check bitches from that point on, particularly the one dog everyone suspects. I remember one poor soul, new to the sport, running derby with his young bitch. He was shocked and surprised that #1 she was in season (he claimed to not know), and #2 the big deal everyone made of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    Only ever been to one HT that had a bitch check and that was years ago. Usually the only time a bitch is actually checked is when another competitor complains that some bitch screwed up his dog's chance at a ribbon. And I know of at least one instance where the supposed culprit bitch responsible for the complaineing handler's failure, was a spayed female.
    That is way to good. Excuses are easy failure is hard to take
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    Several years ago while Don was in line for the bitch check at the National Amateur, I sat at a picnic table that the vet was using for supplies. More than just checking with a paper towel or tissue was done. Slides were taken of suspicious discharges. Several bitches were found to be either coming in or going out. They were scratched.

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    i remember a hunt test in Madison years ago where after the 3rd or 4th male lost his brain it was determined that a female that ran earlier was in fact in heat. Required picking up the entire test and moving to a different site.
    Very inconvenient and time consuming. The offending handler was escorted off of the test grounds. My neutered male was among those that lost it to the hormones.
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    all they need to do is put one of the boys who has been bred near the bitch check station.
    My guy will gladly let you know if anyone is in season, coming in, or coming out. The nose knows.

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    Common sense and honesty . Shouldn't need a Vet. to be at every event. People know when there bitch is in heat before or smells after. Being courteous to fellow contestants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    Bitch check (when done) consists of a wipe with a dry white tissue. If it's still dry and white, she's not considered to be in season.
    That's the easy part. When is it over? If you think it is 21 days like clockwork, you're wrong.

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    You do not want to have to deal with someone who is running and messes up because your girl has that sexy odor...Trust me and wait a little past 21 days from start to finish.
    I agree and that is why I keep Buffy at home when in heat and a little after the 21 days.
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    George, you are the last person that would not play fair...

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