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    One author of the report asked that his name be removed, since he felt the report was overly alarmist. And another commentator indicates that this report is less alarmist than the previous report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    One author of the report asked that his name be removed, since he felt the report was overly alarmist. And another commentator indicates that this report is less alarmist than the previous report.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/3...ly-statements/
    Th UN has declared Global Manmade Climate Warming Change is THE biggest threat to international security.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/globa...un-report-says

    That's all the people need to know!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golddogs View Post
    Panel’s warning on climate risk: Worst is to come


    By Justin Gillis
    New York Times

    YOKOHAMA, Japan — Cli-mate change is already hav-ing sweeping effects on every continent and throughout the world’s oceans, scientists reported Monday, and they warned that the problem is likely to grow substantially worse unless greenhouse emissions are brought under control.

    The report by the Intergov-ernmental Panel on Climate Change, a U. N. group that periodically summarizes cli-mate science, concluded that ice caps are melting, sea ice in the Arctic is collapsing, water supplies are coming under stress, heat waves and heavy rains are intensifying, coral reefs are dying, and fish and many other creatures are migrating toward the poles or in some cases going extinct.

    The oceans are rising at a pace that threatens coastal communities and are becoming more acidic as they absorb some of the carbon dioxide given off by cars and power plants, which is killing some creatures or stunting their growth, the report found.

    Organic matter frozen in Arctic soils since before civili-zation began is now melting, allowing it to decay into greenhouse gases that will cause further warming, the scientists said.

    And the worst is yet to come, the scientists said in the sec-ond of three reports that are expected to carry considerable weight next year as nations try to agree on a new global climate treaty. In par-ticular, the report emphasized that the world’s food supply is at considerable risk — a threat that could have serious consequences for the poorest nations.

    The report was among the most sobering yet issued by the intergovernmental panel.

    The report released Monday in Yokohama is the final work of several hundred authors.

    The report attempts to proj-ect how the effects will alter human society in coming decades.

    It cited the risk of death or injury on a massive scale, probable damage to public health, displacement of people and potential mass migrations.

    “Throughout the 2-1st centu-ry, climate change impacts are projected to slow down economic growth, make pov-erty reduction more difficult, further erode food security, and prolong existing and cre-ate new poverty traps, the lat-ter particularly in urban areas and emerging hotspots of hunger,” the report declared.

    The report also cites the possibility of violent conflict over land or other resources, brought on indirectly by cli-mate change “by exacerbat-ing well established drivers of these conflicts such as pover-ty and economic shocks.”
    A good way to look at this report.

    1.) Who cares about the sea level rising because only the wealthy, in most countries, live next to them and they are the ones which will be hurt. Oh we need their tax dollars.

    2.) Who cares about starvation, death and decease in population. The fewer people in the this world the less pollution will be created. Look at much more pollution there would be if DDT wouldn't have been banned and I can even throw another one out.

    3.) Wiping out different species of animals is not a problem because they fart increasing methane which is also another GM gas. Oh again we can't tax wild animals so they need to be used as a alarm.

    This is a attempt for a money grab. If everyone would be killed be on earth, except 5 people, the first thing they would do is form a committee to decide if it really was GM.
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    Would gather most of them believe in GM also believe pot should be legal. However, a hypocrite theory is do as I say not as I do.

    http://www.motherjones.com/environme...climate-change

    Personally don't care about the pot issue as long as they are responsible like alcohol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Storts View Post
    Would gather most of them believe in GM also believe pot should be legal. However, a hypocrite theory is do as I say not as I do.

    http://www.motherjones.com/environme...climate-change

    Personally don't care about the pot issue as long as they are responsible like alcohol.
    What is GM gas? What does responsible like alcohol mean?
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    Gerry chose to highlight what ONE Scientist said about this topic, ignoring the FACT that the report was actually summarizing 12,000 Peer reviewed reports on the subject.

    Dan was just being Dan. He just can't help it.

    Perhaps some on this forum are comfortable basing their opinion on an important topic on the strength of one man's opinion vs. 12,000. I am not.

    Stan, thanks for posting the link to the entire article. I quoted from it because I felt that most on here would not bother to read it in it's entirety, which is something I urge anyone interested to do.-Paul



    Part of the report talks about what can be done: reducing carbon pollution and adapting to and preparing for changing climates with smarter development.

    The report echoes an earlier U.N. climate science panel that said if greenhouse gases continue to rise, the world is looking at another about 6 or 7 degrees Fahrenheit (3.5 or 4 degrees Celsius) of warming by 2100 instead of the international goal of not allowing temperatures to rise more than 2 degrees Fahrenheit (1.2 degrees Celsius). The difference between those two outcomes, Princeton's Oppenheimer said, "is the difference between driving on an icy road at 30 mph versus 90 mph. It's risky at 30, but deadly at 90."
    Tol, who is in the minority of experts here, had his name removed from the summary because he found it "too alarmist," harping too much on risk.
    But the panel vice chairman, Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, said that's not quite right: "We are pointing for reasons for alarm ... It's because the facts and the science and the data show that there are reasons to be alarmed. It's not because we're alarmist."
    The report is based on more than 12,000 peer reviewed scientific studies. Michel Jarraud, secretary general of the World Meteorological Organization, a co-sponsor of the climate panel, said this report was "the most solid evidence you can get in any scientific discipline."
    Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University who wasn't part of this report, said he found the report "very conservative" because it is based on only peer reviewed studies and has to be approved unanimously.
    There is still time to adapt to some of the coming changes and reduce heat-trapping emissions, so it's not all bad, said study co-author Patricia Romero-Lankao of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado.
    "We have a closing window of opportunity," she said. "We do have choices. We need to act now".
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    Paul, Paul, Paul. You worry too much. Haven't you learned yet that this is just another wealth redistribution scheme planned by scientists and besides all this means is that plants will grow faster, CO2 is natural. Don't worry be happy.

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    Actually, I am more concerned about the rise in sea level than any other single factor. From Texas to Maine precious salt marsh habitat is being lost at an alarming rate, with the Gulf states suffering the most losses. They are important nurseries for young fish, marine bird life and are important buffers of strong coastal storms. Once they're gone, they won't be comingback.-Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
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    Gerry chose to highlight what ONE Scientist said about this topic, ignoring the FACT that the report was actually summarizing 12,000 Peer reviewed reports on the subject.

    Dan was just being Dan. He just can't help it.

    Perhaps some on this forum are comfortable basing their opinion on an important topic on the strength of one man's opinion vs. 12,000. I am not.

    Stan, thanks for posting the link to the entire article. I quoted from it because I felt that most on here would not bother to read it in it's entirety, which is something I urge anyone interested to do.-Paul



    Part of the report talks about what can be done: reducing carbon pollution and adapting to and preparing for changing climates with smarter development.

    The report echoes an earlier U.N. climate science panel that said if greenhouse gases continue to rise, the world is looking at another about 6 or 7 degrees Fahrenheit (3.5 or 4 degrees Celsius) of warming by 2100 instead of the international goal of not allowing temperatures to rise more than 2 degrees Fahrenheit (1.2 degrees Celsius). The difference between those two outcomes, Princeton's Oppenheimer said, "is the difference between driving on an icy road at 30 mph versus 90 mph. It's risky at 30, but deadly at 90."
    Tol, who is in the minority of experts here, had his name removed from the summary because he found it "too alarmist," harping too much on risk.
    But the panel vice chairman, Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, said that's not quite right: "We are pointing for reasons for alarm ... It's because the facts and the science and the data show that there are reasons to be alarmed. It's not because we're alarmist."
    The report is based on more than 12,000 peer reviewed scientific studies. Michel Jarraud, secretary general of the World Meteorological Organization, a co-sponsor of the climate panel, said this report was "the most solid evidence you can get in any scientific discipline."
    Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University who wasn't part of this report, said he found the report "very conservative" because it is based on only peer reviewed studies and has to be approved unanimously.
    There is still time to adapt to some of the coming changes and reduce heat-trapping emissions, so it's not all bad, said study co-author Patricia Romero-Lankao of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado.
    "We have a closing window of opportunity," she said. "We do have choices. We need to act now".
    Paul don't you know this is all "MSM liberal spin"

    There may be 12,000 studies compiled by 1000's of scientists that were used to comprise their findings. However there are also 1 or two studies made by a few "scientists" funded by the Koch brothers and the oil industry that claim differently than what these 12,000 studies claim. Those are the actual holders of the truth

    As has been said on POTUS umpteen times; "FOLLOW THE MONEY"
    We all know that the Koch's and the rest of the fossil fuel industry is purely altruistic and has no political agenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    Paul don't you know this is all "MSM liberal spin"


    We all know that the Koch's and the rest of the fossil fuel industry is purely altruistic and has no political agenda
    Yup, it's those greedy unethical money grubbing scientists and their outsized influence on our political ruling class that we need to be concerned about.
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