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    It seems the scientists are exploring multiple theories on heating and cooling of the planet.
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/st...edieval-times/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    It seems the scientists are exploring multiple theories on heating and cooling of the planet.
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/st...edieval-times/
    Yep. Data from tree rings in some Scandinavian mountains (just like what Mann did for other places in the world). The title of the article says "the earth was warmer". Do you have any studies with data from the rest of the world during this time period?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    RK, it's seems that only certain parts of the globe are being impacted by global warming. I realize the notion of certain regions experiencing higher temperatures and earth will not heat up evenly across all areas but numerous areas are experiencing records lows! Is it just me or does that sound kinda crazy? I'm sure there is an explanation for this. It may not be logical but when has that ever stopped progressives!
    I think that you may be correct in your thinking. I have lived most of my life within 50 miles of where I was born here in Oklahoma. A few years we have lived in NE, KS and TX but not long enough to form opinions on the wearher changes in those last 3 named states. OK has seemed to get dryer and colder over my life time ....
    at least it has changed for some months it seems like. Colder earlier in the Fall I think. No Spring time just straight from cold to hot ( sure hard on garden planting/growing ). May just be my poor memory
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    Local weather and personal anecdotes are interesting. Worldwide scientific data has this November being the warmest on record and the 354th consecutive month of above average global temperatures.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...eport/4052839/


    Here is one on the current impacts of sea level rise. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oasts/3893825/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry V View Post
    Local weather and personal anecdotes are interesting. Worldwide scientific data has this November being the warmest on record and the 354th consecutive month of above average global temperatures.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...eport/4052839/


    Here is one on the current impacts of sea level rise. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oasts/3893825/
    It may be interesting but the scientific community is not in agreement that any of it is not just normal earth cycles....USA today surely is not a source to be trusted...

    Joseph D’Aleo...comments:

    [The National Climatic Data Center's] adjustments made the dust bowl period cooler, while post 1995 had no adjustments applied. This results in a temperature trend that is steeper because the past is cooler than the present. The only problem is that it isn’t what the data actually recorded then.

    I think maybe we need to coin a new term for NOAA NCDC – ‘dust bowl deniers’. Yes it appears there is man-made warming underway but the men are in Asheville, North Carolina at NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center.




    Joseph D’Aleo …"[The IPCC's] models treat the oceans as distilled water when in reality they are an infinite buffer for atmospheric CO2. Burning all the earth’s fossil fuels would amount to no more than a 20 percent increase. It could never double(2). In any event, ice cores tell us carbon dioxide lags, not leads, the temperatures by as much as 800 years."


    I am just pointing out that all of this is just not yet fact only hypothesis!

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    Yes, continental US temps have been warm this year. That is a report for a small part of the world that is consistent with the data presented in my earlier link. He does set up nice straw dog in this piece and then cherry picks continental U.S. only data.

    For more on Mr. Goddard’s blog , credentials, and retraction issues see:
    http://www.desmogblog.com/arctic-ice...tracted?page=1

    http://www.desmogblog.com/steven-goddard#!

    http://deepclimate.org/tag/steven-goddard/

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    MSM Glosses Over Irony of Global Warming Scientists Trapped in Antarctic Ice
    By P.J. Gladnick | December 28, 2013 | 18:46

    Somewhere far, far to the south where it is summer, a group of global warming scientists are trapped in the Antarctic ice. If you missed the irony of that situation, it is because much of the mainstream media has glossed over that rather inconvenient bit of hilarity. As an example here is an Associated Press story that avoids mentioning the real mission of the scientists aboard the icebound Russian ship:

    The Snow Dragon icebreaker came within 7 miles (11 kilometers) of the Russian ship MV Akademik Shokalskiy, which has been stuck since Christmas Eve, but had to retreat after the ice became too thick, said expedition spokesman Alvin Stone.
    The Akademik Shokalskiy, which has been on a research expedition to Antarctica, got stuck Tuesday after a blizzard's whipping winds pushed the sea ice around the ship, freezing it in place. The ship wasn't in danger of sinking, and there are weeks' worth of supplies for the 74 scientists, tourists and crew on board, but the vessel cannot move.
    So what was the exact mission of these scientists? AP is rather vague about this reporting only:

    The scientific team on board the research ship — which left New Zealand on Nov. 28 — had been recreating Australian explorer Douglas Mawson's century-old voyage to Antarctica when it became trapped. They plan to continue their expedition after they are freed, expedition leader Chris Turney said.
    Um, there is a bit more to the expedition than merely following in the footsteps of a century-old voyage. But what that mission really is, AP won't say. If AP is vague about the mission's purpose, Reuters provides even less information.

    Since the MSM isn't forthcoming as to the real purpose of those scientists traveling to Antarctica, we turn to Whats Up With That for more insight:

    The expedition is being led by Chris Turney, “climate scientist”, who has “set up a carbon refining company called Carbonscape which has developed technology to fix carbon from the atmosphere and make a host of green bi-products, helping reduce greenhouse gas levels.” The purpose of the expedition is “to discover and communicate the environmental changes taking place in the south.”
    It seems they found out what the “environmental changes taking place in the south.” are.
    Finally, National Geographic bluntly states the mission purpose:

    ...The current crop of explorers are hoping to document some of the same data and compare them to Mawson's numbers, "using the twist of modern technology," Turney told National Geographic earlier this month.
    As may be expected, global warming might play a role in this, he suggests, particularly with respect to melted ice in the East Antarctic.
    Ah, so now we see why the MSM reluctance to flat out state why the scientists are in the Antarctic. Anything to avoid an inconvenient (but accurate) headline like this:

    GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS TRAPPED IN ANTARCTIC ICE




    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-glad...#ixzz2oyymof6P

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