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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    Truth hurts! Obamacare is not what I wanted, but it is clearly a move in the right direction. My point is quit complaining about it. It rose from the pits of the republican party, so pay attention to who it benefits most and look at who these beneficiaries support, and you will see republican written all over it.
    You truly are a hater aren't you. I am at the point where your post are not even worth reading. So away you go.

    Have a nice life in your little midget world where every thing is the fault of the right.

    You and people like you are the true problem with our country. Blinders on, if it is from the other side it has to be bad, no room for talk just say no and blame, blame, blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blind ambition View Post
    Why any wealthy nation would not view the health of its citizens as equally worthy an expenditure as protection from crime or fires or foreign invaders is a mystery to me. The mess that has been foisted upon you seems to be proof that the legislative branch offers the best governance that money can buy.
    a mystery to a Canadian? heck, there must be lots of those!
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    It may be the work of republicans, but it is not the work of conservatives. There are very few (I can count on one hand) conservatives in congress in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon
    Albeit the republicans did not vote for it, it was crafted much from the opposition of a single-payer system the democrats wanted. Obamacare was the republicans alternative in 1994 when Hilary and Bill took a run at reform. So if you don't like it, you should point blame at the republican congress since it was their ideal. I still believe that a single-payer healthcare system is what is needed but now lets see how this one works. It is the work of conservatives who did not want to to take away from insurers and doctors.
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    Just a warmed over version of Romneycare!


    I don't care who's idea it is, it is a BAD idea!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudminnow View Post
    It may be the work of republicans, but it is not the work of conservatives. There are very few (I can count on one hand) conservatives in congress in Washington.
    You are right, if the more conservative ones had written it. If you can't afford insurance you are out of luck. The real conservatives would deregulate healthcare and a few would get rich while people went untreated and died. Survival of the fitess. Sorry I agree with the other poster, we should take care of our people first, and focus less on making a few richer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    You are right, if the more conservative ones had written it. If you can't afford insurance you are out of luck. The real conservatives would deregulate healthcare and a few would get rich while people went untreated and died. Survival of the fitess. Sorry I agree with the other poster, we should take care of our people first, and focus less on making a few richer.
    Could you share the list of people that were refused treatment and died???

    BTW--If you wonder why many do NOT take you seriously, this kind of ridiculus statement is why!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    You are right, if the more conservative ones had written it. If you can't afford insurance you are out of luck. The real conservatives would deregulate healthcare and a few would get rich while people went untreated and died. Survival of the fitess. Sorry I agree with the other poster, we should take care of our people first, and focus less on making a few richer.
    Many smart people are of the same opinion as you, but they are the ones that think stimulus' help the economy and more money available for student loans is a good thing. All these ideas, (free health care, federal stimulus, student loans) make both republicans and democrats sleep soundly at night because they know they have bought votes. Unfortunately, the more money government puts into a sector of the economy, the more expensive it gets. Think housing market, dot.com bust, Medicaid and medicare, and "coming soon to a depression near you" the student loan bubble burst.

    GOvernment creating money out of thin air( for healthcare,education, housing or pointless wars) buys votes in the short term, but guarantees hardships in the future. True capitalism helps decrease the cost for the consumer while increasing quality. Our crony capitalism of the republicans and socialism of the democrats, increases cost while decreasing quality. If you want high quality and low cost, get the government and insurance companies out of healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    You are right, if the more conservative ones had written it. If you can't afford insurance you are out of luck. The real conservatives would deregulate healthcare and a few would get rich while people went untreated and died. Survival of the fitess. Sorry I agree with the other poster, we should take care of our people first, and focus less on making a few richer.
    I don't know whether I am rich in terms of monetary wealth or not. that is determined in the eyes of others. I do know that in terms of peace of mind, I am definitely rich. I have never worried about what WE should do. I have only worried about what I should do. I leave the "WE" to those who choose to blame others for their lack of effort to make this a better world.
    I WANT NO PART OF YOUR "WE". My responsibility is far greater than that.

    To me "WE" is the classic excuse FOR DOING NOTHING AS SHOULD "I" DO. Personally I pity those who talk in terms of what WE should do. It is best to leave the We to their own misery and let those who think in terms of their own responsibility, the opportunity to make this a better world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryalsobrook View Post
    I don't know whether I am rich in terms of monetary wealth or not. that is determined in the eyes of others. I do know that in terms of peace of mind, I am definitely rich. I have never worried about what WE should do. I have only worried about what I should do. I leave the "WE" to those who choose to blame others for their lack of effort to make this a better world.
    I WANT NO PART OF YOUR "WE". My responsibility is far greater than that.

    To me "WE" is the classic excuse FOR DOING NOTHING AS SHOULD "I" DO. Personally I pity those who talk in terms of what WE should do. It is best to leave the We to their own misery and let those who think in terms of their own responsibility, the opportunity to make this a better world.
    So "you" are selfish! Hope you don't disagree with the second person reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Could you share the list of people that were refused treatment and died???

    BTW--If you wonder why many do NOT take you seriously, this kind of ridiculus statement is why!!
    Wake up....that is what the right wackos want, thank god they can't get it. Just like the left wackos can't get what they want. thank god.

    RK - you hang out on the boarder of the right wackos, please don't get any closer to them.

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