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    Default Pinch (prong) vs choke collar

    Curious what your using on your dogs and the reasons behind the choice.
    I tried looking in archives but couldn't find any good reasons to use one over the other.
    Appreciate it!

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    The traditional choke chain simply pulls tighter on the neck. The prongs dig into the dogs neck when he pulls on it and it is uncomfortable. He will stop pulling to prevent the discomfort.

    I had never used the prong collar before but I had a high roller and so I decided to try the prong collar. The dog would almost jerk my arm off using the traditional choke chain. The prong collar stopped all that. It works.

    Like the old joke: Patient told doctor it hurts when I do this. Dr. response, then don't do that.

    There was a long post, I believe by Chris, on prong collars. I will see if I can find it.

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    Thanks for taking the time to put up the link Wayne.

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    I agree with Wayne. Also dogs learn to tolerate many things. just think of the dogs that are kept chained to a dog house . Then I see them come in for boarding pulling their owners in the door with the dog "On" a choker collar. I have used a prong collar at times with certain dogs that are already pulling my arm off. After using the prong I can go back to the traditional collar. Sue
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    Thanks for the reply Wayne!
    I figured there must be something about it from past posts. I'm not savvy enough to have found it.
    I think it's time for me to change to a pinch for the pup. He's 9 months old now and I'm sure he can handle the change. The local dog training supply store does have the sprenger at 25 bucks. I thought it was kinda steep but she also told me it is the best out there.
    They also sell these little rubber things that you can put on the prongs ends so it doesn't dig in so much I guess.
    Anyways thanks, happy Sunday

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    For training, you can get a snappier correction with a choke collar if you use it correctly. At least that is what I was told by a one of the Pelted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitty View Post
    For training, you can get a snappier correction with a choke collar if you use it correctly. At least that is what I was told by a one of the Pelted.
    The Pelted ones....hmmm don't have a clue.
    But from what I've read and heard the majority say its easier to get a correction, heck I don't know I'm a newbie. But my puppy is starting to lengthen my arm with the yanking when I'm not expecting it.
    I'm going to Buy one. The lady at the store said she'd be happy to demonstrate how to correctly use it.
    thanks again for responses

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    Quote Originally Posted by uplandbird View Post
    The Pelted ones....hmmm don't have a clue.
    But from what I've read and heard the majority say its easier to get a correction, heck I don't know I'm a newbie. But my puppy is starting to lengthen my arm with the yanking when I'm not expecting it.
    I'm going to Buy one. The lady at the store said she'd be happy to demonstrate how to correctly use it.
    thanks again for responses
    You know you're an RTF newb if you don't know what a pelt is!

    The way I remember it, the prong collar is effective at stopping some unwanted behaviors but less effective than the choke chain at teaching the dog to link the disobedience to the correction. The prong collar is doing the work, but with the choke chain the handler has to do the work and time the correction with a command. Presumably this makes it all more black and white for the dog to speed up its learning.

    Sorry I am not able to explain it better. I hope this helps.
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    Used properly it is safer and far more effective than the chain choker. I also liked the snap around nylon choker but the pinch collar worked where the nylon choker failed.
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    I guess by pelted it means "coonskins on the wall" aka ribbons, titles.
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