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    I had the same problem with mine when I got him. It took three treatments and a few hundred $$$$ to finally get him healthy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    Before treatment or after treatment
    i havent had him since we started treatment so before. What other things could this be? Could it be as simple as a diet change again? I only say that because I have switch around his foods and right now he is on Orijen and have heard some dogs just do have solid stools.... just thinking of everything
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    It just seems a little weird to me that the breeder would take on the liability of taking the puppy back in the condition that he is in, especially when they know that you have already been seeking professional help from a vet. It almost seems like there might be some knowledge on their part about a condition that may have existed in the bloodline such as Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency. I'm not saying that is the case, just looking at all angles and playing devil's advocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Marshall View Post
    It just seems a little weird to me that the breeder would take on the liability of taking the puppy back in the condition that he is in, especially when they know that you have already been seeking professional help from a vet. It almost seems like there might be some knowledge on their part about a condition that may have existed in the bloodline such as Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency. I'm not saying that is the case, just looking at all angles and playing devil's advocate.
    I dont think this is the case although I would like to play devils advocate but this is the 4 time of the same breeding pair so I would think it would have been caught a while ago
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    my dog was very sick with giardia as a young pup. After two treatmenta of panacur and being revaccinated against it he finally was better. WE bought a spray on line that kills the spores and sprayed the ground after every bowel movement, since he could reinfect himself. We also had my two small dogs checked they also had it so all were treated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    my dog was very sick with giardia as a young pup. After two treatmenta of panacur and being revaccinated against it he finally was better. WE bought a spray on line that kills the spores and sprayed the ground after every bowel movement, since he could reinfect himself. We also had my two small dogs checked they also had it so all were treated.
    What is this spray on, that you mention here? I don't need it but knowledge of it is good to have as I have a litter of pups now. Just precautionary.
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    I don't understand why the breeder thinks the dog would be more likely to get better at the breeder's place, unless the breeder thinks the dog is being reinfected at your place.

    I'd do the additional blood work, etc, that the vet recommends in case there is something going on besides giardia. I'd try to eliminate any source of recontamination. Like gmhr1, Until he's been better for a couple of months, I'd apply disinfectant after he goes, avoid dog parks or any areas of high-dog concentration like the plague (actually, I'd avoid dog parks whether he's sick or not), avoid highway pet areas at rest stops, keep him out of any water he's been getting into, walk him by a different route if you take walks, etc. You can't keep him in a protective bubble forever, but he needs to get past this and build up the strength to fight future reinfections, if giardia is the problem.

    If he's losing weight and still not eating, I'd be inclined to put him on a tasty, high-cal home-made diet of foods that are easy to digest, but I feed my dogs a lot of home-cooked meals so home-cooking is not a big deal for me. If home-cooking is too inconvenient or too intimidating, I'd ask the vet for a special food and try canned food (which has more moisture). You might turn him into a picky eater, but if things are as bad as they sound, that'd be the least of my worries.
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    I agree with Chesaka....I would make this the breeders problem...

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    The vet I know treats giardia aggressive

    Metronidozole for 5 days, then panacur for 5 days, then in 3 weeks another 5 days of panacur, then wait 3 months another round of panacur

    Maybe DR Ed will chime in on this treatment ?

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    Hmm when mine had it, vet gave us a poop pill (don't remember what it was) (wasn't a wormer, wasn't flagly) to get everything solid, she was on it ~ 14 days, then went off of it, vet said if she got runny again to take her back in they'd have to do more tests. But she went off the pill stayed soild. Older dogs we've always used flagly for a few days to get things back on track if it get really runny, or pepto etc. Unfortunately with a working dog, until his system get used to the microbes in the environment, you'll have giardia-cocci come and go. The 6mts- year can pretty much suck, after that they get pretty good at fighting it off. Make sure you watch for dehydration that can come really quick in a puppy, if they're dehydrated they don't like to eat, might ask your vet about you giving him subcuteaous IV, it won't hurt him, but could make a world of difference in making him feel better. Chicken and rice are standard issue for a pup with a sour stomach, haven't had one yet turn his nose up at it .
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