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    We bought Quaternary ammonium and sprayed it on the grass after every stool was picked up they said it would kill the cysts. I guess it worked along with treatment, shots etc haven't had any problems in years.
    When we would clear up my lab my daughters dogs would come to visit than it would start all over again thats when my vet checked them, they also had giardia so all were treated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post

    We bought Quaternary ammonium and sprayed it on the grass after every stool was picked up they said it would kill the cysts. I guess it worked along with treatment, shots etc haven't had any problems in years.
    The OP's problem is his location. In this region Giardia is part of the normal flora and fauna. It is found in every lake, pond and small stream. Unless you're going to make your dog live in a plastic bubble, it will be continually be reinfected. You can't avoid it.

    I tend to agree with Dr. Ed, I would start looking for other potential causes. Could very well be related to diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swampcollie View Post
    The OP's problem is his location. In this region Giardia is part of the normal flora and fauna. It is found in every lake, pond and small stream. Unless you're going to make your dog live in a plastic bubble, it will be continually be reinfected. You can't avoid it.

    I tend to agree with Dr. Ed, I would start looking for other potential causes. Could very well be related to diet.
    I was wondering the same thing and talking with the breeder for over an hour we are starting to wonder if it is the diet and the amount of time we switched his food on him.
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    I would think this pup should also be on some good probiotic.

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    After my dog cleared up we revaccinated him and continued to do so yearly until my vet no longer carried it. He continued to swim in the same water plus travling to hunt tests, field trials and never had a problem. I did try almost every dog food available and ended up with Natural choice which he has been on for about 11 yrs now. My dog had lost alot of weight his coat looked horrible everything he ate just ran right through him. Its very stressful so I know what your going through prayers sent.
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    [QUOTE=Swampcollie;1105344]The OP's problem is his location. In this region Giardia is part of the normal flora and fauna. It is found in every lake, pond and small stream. Unless you're going to make your dog live in a plastic bubble, it will be continually be reinfected. You can't avoid it.


    It comes from a contaminated animal that sheds the giardia cysts in its feces. You then have to ingest the cysts in order to get giardia. Easily done by an inquisitive puppy via contaminated water or environment, such as his own feces.
    Swampcollie I don't get why you wouldn't want to limit the exposure to the puppy to the giardia contamination by treating the environment surrounding him and for that matter FPA Ammo himself and family. It's a zoonotic disease!
    Obviously FPA you need to keep him out of ponds, lakes and streams until you get this under control.
    Give the puppy a chance and try to give him as much help as possible to get a healthy intestinal tract so when and if exposed again he has a greater chance of overcoming it easily.
    also FPA, why would you send it back to breeder? Unless you no longer want this little pup, I would not send it back to where the giardia contamination originally came from.
    Dr Ed could very well be right that its something more because you should have seen some improvement by now, maybe a second opinion by a different vet could be of help? I don't know, it's a slippery slope.
    Hope things turn around for you, Maria

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    [QUOTE=uplandbird;1105403]
    Quote Originally Posted by Swampcollie View Post
    The OP's problem is his location. In this region Giardia is part of the normal flora and fauna. It is found in every lake, pond and small stream. Unless you're going to make your dog live in a plastic bubble, it will be continually be reinfected. You can't avoid it.


    It comes from a contaminated animal that sheds the giardia cysts in its feces. You then have to ingest the cysts in order to get giardia. Easily done by an inquisitive puppy via contaminated water or environment, such as his own feces.
    Swampcollie I don't get why you wouldn't want to limit the exposure to the puppy to the giardia contamination by treating the environment surrounding him and for that matter FPA Ammo himself and family. It's a zoonotic disease!
    Obviously FPA you need to keep him out of ponds, lakes and streams until you get this under control.
    Give the puppy a chance and try to give him as much help as possible to get a healthy intestinal tract so when and if exposed again he has a greater chance of overcoming it easily.
    also FPA, why would you send it back to breeder? Unless you no longer want this little pup, I would not send it back to where the giardia contamination originally came from.
    Dr Ed could very well be right that its something more because you should have seen some improvement by now, maybe a second opinion by a different vet could be of help? I don't know, it's a slippery slope.
    Hope things turn around for you, Maria
    Maria,

    thanks for the good words! I didn't/don't want to bring him to the breeder, he only offered as we have been dealing with these issues for over a month. He said why not put this problem in my hands. He was trying to be nice and help. On Thursday my wife ended switch foods back to what he came home on... Trying to get back to square one just like he was before he came home and switching foods in the last 2 days has actually helped a lot!! Have seen this much activity and eat so much so I may have been dealing with a food problem on top of the Giardia problem.... We are certainly keeping out of any type of water and keeping the yard as clean as possible to prevent anything from re-occurring
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    Remember when switching foods it should be done slowly. I add a little of the new to his regular food a little at a time over a period of 5-7 days.
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