Section 6. In marking situations, a handler shall not line a dog in the direction of any fall or gun station until all falls are down.
Once all marks are down and the handler/dog has been released by the judges, a handler may give the dog a line in the direction of any or all falls, provided that such lining is accomplished briskly and precisely. Conspicuously intensive lining suggests a weak marking ability and the dog must be scored low in Marking.
The handler of the working dog shall remain silent from the time handler signals for the first bird to be thrown until the Judges release the dog. (Bold and coloring for emphasis made by me)
The handler of the honoring dog may speak quietly to the honoring dog provided the handler does not interfere with other handlers, the working dog(s) or the Judges.
Note: While speaking quietly to the honoring dog is allowed, threatening gestures or any form of intimidation is not acceptable and shall not be allowed by the Judges.
The Regulations and Guidelines do not say “should”, they clearly state “shall”. No getting around that directive. Judges were completely correct in dropping the dog for the handler’s error.
I’m not sure why you would gain respect for a professional trainer who was ignoring the Regulations and Guidelines. A pro should be mentoring his clients to follow the rules, not break them.
Last edited by Vicky Trainor; 05-20-2013 at 10:12 AM.
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This is crazy. Does this stuff really happen? It all seems pretty petty to me, what's the point? To make the judges feel bad? I have seen a lot of crazy test, extreme breaking test, over-under's, flower pots, tricky unfair test, etc, but unless I see some unsafe aspect to the test, I'll keep my mouth shut and give it a shot. If you see something that you believe is unsafe, the time to deal with it is when we are all up there getting ready to watch the test dog. Believe me, Judges don't want to hurt a dog and if they missed something that could, they will happily deal with it.
I don't know about hunt test, but in AKC field trials there are rules dealing with misconduct, a lot of what has been written here could easily be considered misconduct.
I just hope that if the pro made a protest at the expense of my dog that he'd at least find the decency to not charge me for a handlers fee AND to take my entry fee for the dog off my next months training bill......you feel like you have to protest go for it...but it'd better not be at the expense of my dog.
And if you gained respect for him for trying to say that the judges should have ignored a rule that's been known about since the dawn of time....that's on you.
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As far as dropping the person for speaking after the handler called for the birds, could have been the nicest, most helpful judges in the world but their hands were tied. Similar to a no go on a blind. I have seen many cases where it was obvious that the dog was confused about whether it was sent on a blind, but the rules don't allow for judges to call it confusion, so dog is out. I have seen a lot of judges be douches and drop people for minor things that few would ever drop a person for, but this is cut and dried.