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    I am curious how many of you knew your sexual orientation at the ages of 8-14?
    I knew there were differences, I had no idea what kind of trouble those differences were going to cause down the road!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I am curious how many of you knew your sexual orientation at the ages of 8-14?
    I knew there were differences, I had no idea what kind of trouble those differences were going to cause down the road!!!!
    Bingo....you hit on exactly what I was getting at..those are the formidable years in a young man's life, it is so important to have the right role models in shaping the future, not just in their sexual orientation but how they treat others
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    I think many are missing a key point, this issue is not about 'allowing gays' into BSA, it is about allowing "openly gay" Scouts into the BSA. For me I would like someone to define what the term "Openly Gay" is when talking about boys this age? I believe gays have been in the scouts all along, some knowing they were different, some not. Now we have a new law saying that "openly gay" scouts are ok....??? CRAZY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampcollielover View Post
    I think many are missing a key point, this issue is not about 'allowing gays' into BSA, it is about allowing "openly gay" Scouts into the BSA. For me I would like someone to define what the term "Openly Gay" is when talking about boys this age? I believe gays have been in the scouts all along, some knowing they were different, some not. Now we have a new law saying that "openly gay" scouts are ok....??? CRAZY!
    Agreed Gay has been present in the BS since its inception. Gay scout masters have been taking advantage of that just as they have in the Catholic Church too. So the fact it is not discussed because everyone wants their world to be Mayberry, when it looks more like Gotham to taking a blind eye.

    More open discussion and acceptance I think will do more to keep hate from fostering. No different than the military.

    But the real message is inclusion and becoming good leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I am curious how many of you knew your sexual orientation at the ages of 8-14?
    I knew there were differences, I had no idea what kind of trouble those differences were going to cause down the road!!!!

    I'm pretty sure that I knew that I liked girls by the time I was chasing Jeanie Brooks around the playground in first grade
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I am curious how many of you knew your sexual orientation at the ages of 8-14?
    How many of us were even thinking about "sexual orientation" at age 8-11 or so? I'd think that until puberty, it's kind of a moot point.

    I think even now we tend to forget that LGBT individuals would account for only about 4% of the population (if I recall the stats correctly).
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    I am a eagle scout and was involved in scouting for 40 yrs from scoutmaster to oa advisor to district training and wood badge there was a time where we had to change our name to scouts of
    America and girls were allowed to join until some one brought up congress had passed the name as Boy Scouts of America and the program has changed so much from what it was to mold young boys into Men and teach values and outdoor skills and respect for all the scout law A scout is trustworthy,loyal, helpful,friendly, courteous, kind, obedient,cheerful, thrifty,
    brave,clean and reverent . and the oath On my Honor I will do my best to do my duty to god and country and obey the the scout law to help other people at all times and keep myself physically strong mentally awake and morally straight
    will these values still apply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djansma View Post
    I am a eagle scout and was involved in scouting for 40 yrs from scoutmaster to oa advisor to district training and wood badge there was a time where we had to change our name to scouts of
    America and girls were allowed to join
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    Really? When were girls allowed? I'm just curious as while I was a girl scout I spent a heck of a lot more time doing cub scout and boy scout merit badge stuff. I was a total tomboy and my Dad was a Cubmaster (He started the pack)and Webelos( sp) leader and then asst Scoutmaster.
    Hmmff. And to think I tested all those Webelos projects and maybe could have gotten some credit for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by djansma View Post
    I am a eagle scout and was involved in scouting for 40 yrs from scoutmaster to oa advisor to district training and wood badge there was a time where we had to change our name to scouts of
    America and girls were allowed to join until some one brought up congress had passed the name as Boy Scouts of America and the program has changed so much from what it was to mold young boys into Men and teach values and outdoor skills and respect for all the scout law A scout is trustworthy,loyal, helpful,friendly, courteous, kind, obedient,cheerful, thrifty,
    brave,clean and reverent . and the oath On my Honor I will do my best to do my duty to god and country and obey the the scout law to help other people at all times and keep myself physically strong mentally awake and morally straight

    will these values still apply?

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    I believe it was in the late 70's the uniforms had scout of America on them instead of Boy Scouts of America
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    Really? When were girls allowed? I'm just curious as while I was a girl scout I spent a heck of a lot more time doing cub scout and boy scout merit badge stuff. I was a total tomboy and my Dad was a Cubmaster (He started the pack)and Webelos( sp) leader and then asst Scoutmaster.
    Hmmff. And to think I tested all those Webelos projects and maybe could have gotten some credit for it!
    So much more fun than knitting some stupid square for a blanket!
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