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    Default Hunting dog vs. Trial dog?

    Generic question but do any of you train your hunting dog any different than your trial dog? Only reason I ask is because some drills are clearly for trial and not as practical for hunting scenarios. 95% of what I'm learning from dvd's and literature have their place in a hunting setup but this past season I hunted the river with a gentleman who didn't train de-cheat bc he didn't want his dog treading river current back to the boat. It was easier for the pup to get the duck, hit the bank and run back to the boat. Any other scenarios to consider when training hunting vs. trial?

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    In a river scenario, handle the dog to shore on the return. But I'd train the same for trials/hunt test as I would for huntin'
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    Ditto...after all trialing is only because of huntin'.
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    I bought a huntin' dog and got a trial dog.but my trial dog is a hell of a hunter.
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    in a trial you want your dog to go get every bird shot by every gunner. your dog is to do this no matter how far the distance.

    hunting public land on the tennessee river in jackson county alabama, you will have ten groups of "gunners" closer than the check down bird in a set of field trial marks. your trial dog will see them and think they are setting up for him. if they shoot a bird you do not want your trial dog to go and retrieve it!

    as my good friend ken says, "get a rope!"

    just kidding.....it's all the same.
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    Sounds like sticking to my program and training every aspect would be the route to go in case you run into that once in a season fluke of needing "said" skill.
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    Basics & most Transition are the same. It's the nuances and the scale that differ for many trainers. I train mine just alike. Even when I trialed heavily I hunted my trial dogs every season.

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    Train like a trial dog, don't forget the short stuff, Then teach a hunting dog the particular skills he'll need for your type of hunting. Trial training teaches them how too learn so when you need to adapt skills, you have the tools to teach them easily.
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    "don't forget the short stuff" good advice. Living in Georgia most of our retrieves are less than 100yds. I have seen trial dogs who could step on some 2 and 300 yrd marks blow right by the short throws. Change it up to fit where you live most of the time. When I get ready to hunt rice fields in Arkansas I train the week before accordingly and stretch the marks and blinds.

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