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    You never hear the outrage for the black on black crime. That's the travesty here! You're right the msnbc cover was outrageous. Good thing only about 12 people watch it!

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    The jury may have spoken ... but Holder isn't through with it! This is terrible, I think.
    This is from AP:
    The Justice Department says it is looking into the shooting death of Trayvon Martin to determine whether federal prosecutors should file criminal civil rights charges now that George Zimmerman has been acquitted in the state case.The department opened an investigation into Martin's death last year but stepped aside to allow the state prosecution to proceed.
    In a statement Sunday, the Justice Department said the criminal section of the civil rights division, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office for the Middle District of Florida are continuing to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal probe, in addition to the evidence and testimony from the state trial.
    The statement said that, in the government's words, "experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation."
    Z's life is already ruined. The trial did show, I think, that the only racial overtones were from Trayvon, not Z.
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    Could Holder be prosecuted for a civil rights violation if he does this?
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    How could DOJ file civil rights charges. To begin, they've already investigated and found nothing. (See: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/1...l#.UeM9mT7DVoY). Second, civil rights violations are actions by an official or body under the color of law. Z is not a government official by any stretch. It's covered by 42 USC Section 1983. Finally, Z is not white. He's Hispanic. Would Holder risk the hispanic vote?

    Sad to say but at the basest level, one person kills another all the time and sometimes one is black and the other is white and vice versa.

    A really good timeline is at http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...rage-Rap-Sheet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    How could DOJ file civil rights charges. To begin, they've already investigated and found nothing. (See: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/1...l#.UeM9mT7DVoY). Second, civil rights violations are actions by an official or body under the color of law. Z is not a government official by any stretch. It's covered by 42 USC Section 1983. Finally, Z is not white. He's Hispanic. Would Holder risk the hispanic vote?

    Sad to say but at the basest level, one person kills another all the time and sometimes one is black and the other is white and vice versa.

    A really good timeline is at http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...rage-Rap-Sheet
    Simply not true, individuals have been charged with Federal Civil Rights statues and were in no way a government official.

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    Under what portion of the code and please give an example? We aren't talking about "hate crimes" which probably wouldn't work as it was brought out that if Z was profiling it based on the hoodie, not TM's race.
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    Hate crimes prevention act (Sean Popejoy), Church Arson Prevention Act (Richard Morrison).

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    Didn't both of those guys plead guilty and were sentenced initially under the above mentioned acts? They weren't found innocent and then had federal charges brought against them. Seems a little different.

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    All of that BS is a joke... The man was found not guilty... Time to move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    How could DOJ file civil rights charges.

    Because Holder is Attorney General?

    To begin, they've already investigated and found nothing. (See: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/1...l#.UeM9mT7DVoY). Second, civil rights violations are actions by an official or body under the color of law.

    So, if Holder proceeds with this, maybe he can be prosecuted for discrimination?



    Z is not a government official by any stretch. It's covered by 42 USC Section 1983. Finally, Z is not white. He's Hispanic. Would Holder risk the hispanic vote?

    I have wondered why the Latino community has been so silent on this. Haven't heard a word about the media prejudice against Zimmerman through all of this. Has anybody else? Latinos better watch their backs if this is the way Holder's DOJ proceeds.

    Sad to say but at the basest level, one person kills another all the time and sometimes one is black and the other is white and vice versa.

    A really good timeline is at http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...rage-Rap-Sheet
    Michael Ledeen quoted a statement by Holder
    "I am the black U.S. attorney...there's a common cause that bonds the black U.S. attorney with the black criminal..."

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...#ixzz2Z5V8c9dK
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