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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    After the multiple cast refusals that I probably would have received on the first point, I would have given a "NO! HERE!" before the dog ever got the chance to reach the second point.

    If, by some miracle, I was still in control when the dog made it to the second point, I would NOT give an over. That left shoreline isn't something that I want the dog to feel "invited" to visit.

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    WTH does this have to do with the topic of the thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    WTH does this have to do with the topic of the thread?
    It's the Zimmerman blind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    Actually olliedog's transcript is that of someone present in the courtroom noting what is being said. Here is some of that (starting from the bottom up, as olliedog suggested) which touches on some of the points we've discussed along the way.

    About the voice analysis:

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    There was a recess in the court before the next testimony. This was a police narcotics officer who did not respond that night, but did question Z that night

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    Singleton was having trouble understanding the locations, so she used a Google map for Zimmerman to explain the locations of his testimony. The map on the site was not great, and not sure how it will come out here.
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    Serino was the head investigator for the local police. He visited the scene of the crime while Martin's body was still there, but Z had already left. Then he interviewed Z back at the police facility.
    I have left out some of the long transcript because some of it didn't seem necessary. Olliedog's link did work for me, so if it didn't work for you, try again.
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    Has anyone found any real "lists" of various pieces of evidence?
    I have found mention of bits and pieces here and there ... such as, that there were grass stains on both knees of Martin's pants, indicating that he might well have been straddling Z on the grass. Could their tussle have started on the sidewalk and moved over onto the grass ... thus limiting the damage to the back of Z's head?

    Olliedog mentions that Martin could have been using a headphone for his phone. Was the headphone found?

    If no one disputes that Z was punched in the nose, why is there no DNA from Z on Martin's hands? Even if Martin were the victim, the two had physical contact, so there should be some DNA on both parties (from the other), shouldn't there?

    I don't think Z ever said Martin was screaming to tell him to shut up. The voice analyst mentioned that even the screaming for help was difficult to analyze due to the distance of the recording device from the voices.

    As to street names ... as a RealtorŪ, I can vouch for the fact that in cookie-cutter developments, even in daylight, the houses & streets can all look the same, and you need the street name to know exactly which street you are on. It should have been easier for Z to do so, but not infallible when under stress.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]


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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    It's the Zimmerman blind.
    HaHa! Maybe they should have been running dogs...
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    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/07/...an-trial-79549

    Also has a poll as to what he should be found.

    Based on the evidence, what do you think is the correct verdict for George Zimmerman?


    • Not Guilty (78%, 1,636 Votes)
    • Second Degree Murder (12%, 253 Votes)
    • Manslaughter (10%, 207 Votes)


    Total Voters: 2,096
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    The Court is back from recess following the final rebuttal from the Prosecution. The Judge is getting ready to give the Jury their instructions.

    http://www.foxnews.com/live-coverage/zimmerman-trial

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    I knew she looked familiar.

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    Well folks, here it is............Not Guilty

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    I wonder if the jury held off so long in order to give the verdict late on a saturday in an attempt to minimize the violence (although many may be drunk at this hour).
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    Let the riots begin.
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