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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post
    ..... TrayVON might have been the one spoiling for a fight. Might have had a chip on his shoulder and considered any question, no matter how apparently friendly, as an unacceptable intrusion. I've met folks like that (we probably all have). We'll never know.

    OK... lets interject a little factoid.
    I cook. I work with 17 - 22 year old dishwashers 5 days a week.
    NO STONED KID ON A SKITTLE RUN WANTS A FIST FIGHT!.
    They wanna run back home and get more stoned!

    its just like, if you wanna get rid of all ill eagle drugs just have the cops deliver every pizza ordered after 11:30 p.m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvalab View Post
    Or would he have observed from a distance to see that the police were following through on his call?
    We don't know from how far back Zimmerman was surveilling TraVON before the altercation. At least one version I have heard seems to indicate that Zimmerman was following from a distance, and had turned back to his truck when TraVON confronted him. If so, perhaps Zimmerman was being pretty responsible. I don't know why anyone carries a sidearm unless they have some concern that they might need it sometime. Pistols are heavy, and if attached to your pants or belt will tend to pull them down, they poke you when you sit and usually must be carried in such a fashion as to not be noticeable. All somewhat uncomfortable. Not something many would put up with unless they perceived a need. Seems to me that to some extent you are suggesting that anyone that felt the need to carry probably shouldn't carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Bora View Post
    OK... lets interject a little factoid.
    I cook. I work with 17 - 22 year old dishwashers 5 days a week.
    NO STONED KID ON A SKITTLE RUN WANTS A FIST FIGHT!.
    They wanna run back home and get more stoned!

    its just like, if you wanna get rid of all ill eagle drugs just have the cops deliver every pizza ordered after 11:30 p.m.
    For a "stoned kid" he was acquitting himself pretty well. By the way, I PM'd you about a week ago. Did you see it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post

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    Not something many would put up with unless they perceived a need. Seems to me that to some extent you are suggesting that anyone that felt the need to carry probably shouldn't carry.
    I am suggesting (not asserting--suggesting) that Zimmerman should not have chosen to carry. He made a choice. He was free to make that choice.

    Obviously, I don't know the man, so it's pure speculation.

    But I think that there are people who choose to carry that, while I believe they have every right to choose, would perhaps be better off making a different choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvalab View Post
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    But I think that there are people who choose to carry that, while I believe they have every right to choose, would perhaps be better off making a different choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Bora View Post
    OK... lets interject a little factoid.
    I cook. I work with 17 - 22 year old dishwashers 5 days a week.
    NO STONED KID ON A SKITTLE RUN WANTS A FIST FIGHT!.
    They wanna run back home and get more stoned!

    its just like, if you wanna get rid of all ill eagle drugs just have the cops deliver every pizza ordered after 11:30 p.m.
    That has not been my experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Bora View Post
    OK... lets interject a little factoid.
    I cook. I work with 17 - 22 year old dishwashers 5 days a week.
    NO STONED KID ON A SKITTLE RUN WANTS A FIST FIGHT!.
    They wanna run back home and get more stoned!

    its just like, if you wanna get rid of all ill eagle drugs just have the cops deliver every pizza ordered after 11:30 p.m.
    What about the little gang bangers looking to impress the big dogs in their hood ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn White View Post
    What about the little gang bangers looking to impress the big dogs in their hood ?
    Zim was playing that role.
    with the big dogs in his mind being real cops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Bora View Post
    Zim was playing that role.
    with the big dogs in his mind being real cops.
    True ...2 sides to every coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Bora View Post
    OK... lets interject a little factoid.
    I cook. I work with 17 - 22 year old dishwashers 5 days a week.
    NO STONED KID ON A SKITTLE RUN WANTS A FIST FIGHT!.
    They wanna run back home and get more stoned!

    its just like, if you wanna get rid of all ill eagle drugs just have the cops deliver every pizza ordered after 11:30 p.m.
    Poke, where is the fact in your post?

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