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    Quote Originally Posted by swampcollielover View Post
    Franco...as always your opinion is nothing more than 'your opinion'.....if you would ever check facts on legitimate sources of information, you would find a brave new world out here......History has Judged Reagan and it is all good.....history will judge Obama and it will be below the line, he already stands out as the worst of the worst...Jimmy Carter finally, has someone worse then him.....!
    I see were History has evaded you! I used facts, period. Research it, then dispute what I wrote. My opinion is that, LBJ was the worse President in the last 50 years followed by Bush 43. But then, one would have to have an open mind.http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatt...-1980-to-2012/
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    Nice try Franco....but this article you referenced was based on the number of Government Employees, not taking into account the costs associated with these employees. Also as you know President Bush, had to deal with the attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11...of course he added headcount, in doing so he may have saved your rear. Bush I had a war to fight..etc... etc. None of this is considered in this goofy article... as for Obama numbers being lower, down 7%....it is because of the financial crisis he created (That's in the article, or did you miss it!) This article does not even talk about federal spending......the data just does not support your opinion, as usual....you used no REALEVANT FACTS, PERIOD!

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    Swamp Collie, which planet do you live on? Certainly, not earth! BTW, the financial crisis was under Bush43. You really are clueless.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Swamp Collie, which planet do you live on? Certainly, not earth! BTW, the financial crisis was under Bush43. You really are clueless.
    Didn't know Bush43 was still president or is the financial crisis over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckheads View Post
    Didn't know Bush43 was still president or is the financial crisis over?
    The most recent financial crisis hit the News in August 2007. It was a result of an instrument known as Credit Default Swaps. Would you like to take a guess at which party wrote and championed Credit Default Swaps?

    With the Dow at 15,000 this perticular financial crisis that was revealed in 2007 has been over. The bigger one is around the corner.
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    Regan was beholden to the folks that put him in office and they were the defense contractors. He took care of them well too. No one complained at the time either because it made jobs during a recession. However, he ran on a platform that he was going to pay down the national debt. He raised taxes when he did away with the deductions albeit he slashed the marginal rate. All this got the economy growing again but it was driven by massive spending on defense. In many ways this was good, but it set precedence that defense spending was the way to encourage the economy, and the result has been large unpaid debts. Just like everyone before him, their intentions were not abuse after the crisis, as I would think were not his intentions. The presidents that follow these presidents usually get the shaft, because of pressure put on them not to spend and without the spending the economy falters. George H was a victim of that.
    George W was beholden to the folks that put him in office and they were the oil companies. He took care of them too and since he had all of Reagan’s folks advising him they pushed him to war. So the result is massive debt. The guy that followed inherited a mess that had snow balled for decades.
    Now Obama is beholden to the folks that put him in office and that is the working man and with that comes unions, minorities’ environmentalist. That is why healthcare for folks that can’t afford it, education opportunities for folks that can’t afford it, civil rights for minorities, and environmental regulation that preserve the planet that add cost to doing business. In other words what needs done but is opposed by business because it takes away from profit but needs help for the good of all mankind.
    Like I said before, there will come a time when the pendulum moves to far to the left but it has not happened yet.

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    So emnmon, it's the working man that obama is looking out for! Are you freakin' kidding? That would be like saying it was the working man that got him elected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    So emnmon, it's the working man that obama is looking out for! Are you freakin' kidding? That would be like saying it was the working man that got him elected!
    Last account I had rich white folks were not voting for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    Regan was beholden to the folks that put him in office and they were the defense contractors. He took care of them well too. No one complained at the time either because it made jobs during a recession. However, he ran on a platform that he was going to pay down the national debt. He raised taxes when he did away with the deductions albeit he slashed the marginal rate. All this got the economy growing again but it was driven by massive spending on defense. In many ways this was good, but it set precedence that defense spending was the way to encourage the economy, and the result has been large unpaid debts. Just like everyone before him, their intentions were not abuse after the crisis, as I would think were not his intentions. The presidents that follow these presidents usually get the shaft, because of pressure put on them not to spend and without the spending the economy falters. George H was a victim of that.
    George W was beholden to the folks that put him in office and they were the oil companies. He took care of them too and since he had all of Reaganís folks advising him they pushed him to war. So the result is massive debt. The guy that followed inherited a mess that had snow balled for decades.
    Now Obama is beholden to the folks that put him in office and that is the working man and with that comes unions, minoritiesí environmentalist. That is why healthcare for folks that canít afford it, education opportunities for folks that canít afford it, civil rights for minorities, and environmental regulation that preserve the planet that add cost to doing business. In other words what needs done but is opposed by business because it takes away from profit but needs help for the good of all mankind.
    Like I said before, there will come a time when the pendulum moves to far to the left but it has not happened yet.
    Obama is "beholden" to anybody BUT the working man.
    With that comes a larger "TEAT" for the entitlement crowd.

    Granted, DA UNIONs are a funnel of cash directly to the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Obama is "beholden" to anybody BUT the working man.
    With that comes a larger "TEAT" for the entitlement crowd.

    Granted, DA UNIONs are a funnel of cash directly to the Democrats.
    Take your shades off

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