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    Seems that sequester wasn't quite as bad as the Chicken Littles were saying it would be. When Congress lifted the requirement about keeping all accounts within an agency separated in the cost-cutting process, the agencies adjusted.

    I especially liked these:

    Instead of furloughing FBI and federal prison staff, the Justice Department used money from programs that either never began, or that ended under-budget.


    Border Patrol, the Coast Guard and others postponed certain maintenance projects, eliminated bonuses and generally did some belt-tightening. (Though that didn't seem to preclude the geniuses at GSA from changing the location of the Coast Guard headquarters at ridiculous expense.)


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2XwseGwSI
    But the dire warnings are expected to resurface, as lawmakers grapple with next year's spending bills.


    Congress technically has three months to pass a budget in order to avoid a government shutdown. This time, the mandatory spending cuts are supposed to total $109 billion for the next fiscal year.

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    The move of the Coast Guard was to a new building. Don't know the details but, with the normal course of events, the building was in planning and construction for about 8 years. The question then is Gerry, should the CG have stayed in their old buildings, many likely rented with the rental period expiring, and then left the new building vacant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    The move of the Coast Guard was to a new building. Don't know the details but, with the normal course of events, the building was in planning and construction for about 8 years. The question then is Gerry, should the CG have stayed in their old buildings, many likely rented with the rental period expiring, and then left the new building vacant?
    As I understand it the new building will be on a rental basis as well ... but significantly more expensive. I think that the details are in the "GSA Geniuses" thread.

    Yes, the question is whether a new building was needed. The CG has been at Kings Point for a l-o-n-g time.

    Was reading recently that the vacant buildings owned by govt are costing quite a lot of money to maintain. Why don't they just sell them? Or at least rent them to generate some revenue? Might be because so few in govt have any idea how to run a "business" ... and govt certainly needs some of that kind of input.
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    I wonder if that includes buildings on military bases. The old O-club at NAS Corpus Christi (where both Papa Bush and John McCain got their wings) is standing vacant. There is no money to bring it up to standard, and no money to tear it down. Even if it was up to snuff, it wouldn't really be rentable as it is just too dang difficult to get on base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post
    I wonder if that includes buildings on military bases. The old O-club at NAS Corpus Christi (where both Papa Bush and John McCain got their wings) is standing vacant. There is no money to bring it up to standard, and no money to tear it down. Even if it was up to snuff, it wouldn't really be rentable as it is just too dang difficult to get on base.
    Why not offer a non-profit, like Habitat for Humanity, the job of tearing it down, and let them use or sell the parts for their charity? There should be some building components that could be re-used or sold for scrap, and if the work is done by volunteers, it will cost the govt nothing to tear it down.

    Part of the problem with our govt's size is that trying to do something "outside the box" is like trying to make the Queen Mary do a U-turn.
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    >>Why not offer a non-profit, like Habitat for Humanity, the job of tearing it down,

    That would be a legal nightmare considering that it is probably rife with asbestos.

    When I did a search on the new CG HQ, I didn't get the impression that it would be a rented facility. Dunno.
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    Eric, I found this. It appears that CG will be moving into the new HSA building.
    The Coast Guard plans to move out of the Transpoint Building, at 2100 Second St. SW, beginning this August when it becomes the first of many planned agencies within the Department of Homeland Security to move to St. E’s.

    Robyn estimated the federal government will be saving $60 million through its early lease termination at the 608,000-square-foot Transpoint building. Norton said DHS has a number of agencies with leases in holdover status, meaning their original lease term has expired, that could be shifted to Transpoint at a substantial savings to the government. She asked Robyn to submit a follow-up letter outlining how the federal government will avoid a lease exposure at the building.


    The ambitious plan to turn St. E’s into a consolidated campus for DHS has dragged on for years due to a lack of funding, and officials at the GSA are still waiting for authorization and money to launch the project’s second phase. President Obama’s budget includes $261.5 million to advance the project, but that funding faces an uncertain future in Congress.
    Anticipating further delays, the Coast Guard agreed in 2008 to renew its lease for about 545,052 square feet at the Transpoint building for another decade. The agency has been in the building since the Nixon administration. It is locked into a lease until May 2018 but has executed an early termination clause effective in May of 2015, according to sources.
    Representatives from Monday Propertiesstarted reaching out to officials at DHS and the General Services Administration to find alternate tenants to take over Coast Guard’s remaining lease as early as June 2011, according to real estate sources. The Coast Guard has invested roughly $40 million in tenant improvements to the space, and officials from Monday have reportedly offered to pay for other DHS agencies with leases slated to expire this year or next year to move to the building
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    That would be a legal nightmare considering that it is probably rife with asbestos.
    True about the asbestos. However, Habitat gets lots of volunteer donations, and there are companies that specialize in removing asbestos ... so such labor might also be a form of donation.

    Would depend on the salvage value of the building. Wonder how much copper wire there is in there?
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    I am sure there are other things that have been cut that don't get a lot of press.

    I have heard that hot meals have been cut at FOB, not something that I am happy about.

    I also know someone who was a contract trainer for the FAA. He said all of the trainers were contract, they have all been cut and the management who are left don't know how to do the training. Not something we will feel now but in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    >>Why not offer a non-profit, like Habitat for Humanity, the job of tearing it down,

    That would be a legal nightmare considering that it is probably rife with asbestos.

    When I did a search on the new CG HQ, I didn't get the impression that it would be a rented facility. Dunno.
    Bingo (not to mention lead paint).

    It was still in use until mid February of this year too.
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