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    Quote Originally Posted by badbullgator View Post
    I cannot agree less about the grand due to the disproportionate number of dogs dropped for obedience in the grand. MN is much more of a test of what a dog can do in respect to actual field work. I could care less if the dog is stuck to my leg on the way to the line. It is also far more difficult to qualify each year for the MN that the one time last forever qualifications for the Grand. Maybe that is why the Grand is so hard on obedience, because all you have to have is a HRCH and I have seen many HRCH's that would not have a MH and wold not qualify for the MN. That is not to say that a dog that passes the Grand is not an exceptional dog, just that many that enter the Grand are not.
    I wonder if some of the obedience in HRC is due to gun safety.
    Yes I agree with you some who have run HRC could not pass the MH and should not be in the Grand and also vice versa some who have their MH could not do HRC, I have seen! JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunt'EmUp View Post
    Simple answer to this is HRC peeps don't Like AKC very few run it, just as AKC don't like HRC and very few run it, Many AKC Dogs with just MH, many HRCH dog with just HRCH, many GRHRCH dog with just GRHRCH, many MNH dogs with just that, many FC dogs with only FC titles. Very few with MH-HRCH, HRCH-MH, FC AFC-MH-HRCH or any other combo of titles, you'd have to actually run the other venue, and assoicate with those people . Heck there are even dogs sold for Premium price who are only UKC registered, and have been for generations, and you'd have to make an effort to get them AKC papers, to run them. People stick to their own venues, or whatevers available in their area. Then we argue that the other side is easier or wrong, to inflate our egos and put our dogs and venue on a rung a tad above others. When a good dog, could care about venue, and every test-trial is an individual, regardless of venue, some are hard some easy. Yet we argue it and rate them, because It keeps the blood pumping, to talk a bit of smack. & Heck if we do it enough, it'll get this thread locked, which might be the only way to stop the outrageously incorrect things others are saying about CA vs. WI cheese
    That works unless you acknowledge my example of being titled in both venues. And many are.
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    AKC Master is a lot harder than HRC Finished. And while there is more that a handler is allowed to do in HRC, I do not agree that AKC is somehow "more-dog-less-handler" than HRC.

    Just because you can't do as much, doesn't mean that what you can do, doesn't make just as big (or bigger) of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    That works unless you acknowledge my example of being titled in both venues. And many are.

    I don't knowabout there being many, but here is one that got around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    I thought it was Wis cheese and Vermont cheese
    No it was about, who cut the cheese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    No it was about, who cut the cheese
    That was answered in post 186.
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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    AKC Master is a lot harder than HRC Finished. And while there is more that a handler is allowed to do in HRC, I do not agree that AKC is somehow "more-dog-less-handler" than HRC.

    Just because you can't do as much, doesn't mean that what you can do, doesn't make just as big (or bigger) of a difference.
    Actually compare the rules. More opportunities for failure due to handler in hrc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    I thought it was Wis cheese and Vermont cheese
    I thought it was hot dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Dog2002 View Post
    Actually compare the rules. More opportunities for failure due to handler in hrc

    /Paul
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    I can still manage to get a dog through a lot more Finished tests than I can Master.

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