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RTF-An observation & A Suggestion

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#1 ·
I took a job assignment requiring me to be in the N British Isles for a year. As a result I have been too busy for internet forums, and haven't visited RTF for months
I came back to the U.S. a few weeks ago due to the death of a close friends dear mother. I have spent a lot of time on the internet in this time; much of that time spent on RTF
I mostly participate as an observer on the main forum as I don't feel I have the training chops to be of much use. The majority of my posting is done on the sub forum, or septic tank, known as POTUS

My observation is that in the 6 months I've been away POTUS & RTF has lost its edge, and sadly and more importantly that the main forum has lost much of it's expertise.
Best I can figure the reason for many wise experienced posters leaving is due to banning of some and indifference of the others.
The indifference to me is understandable, as I already stated that I felt RTF has lost much of its edge and expertise.

A few years ago training questions were debated & answered by accomplished Amateurs such as Jim Pickering, Captain Jack and competition pros like Christie Wilder and Angie Becker. Health and breeding questions were answered by knowledgeable experienced experts such as Erinsedge or Melanie Foster
The banning is an unknown mystery for me in that I don't know the reasons for the banning Only those banned and the janitor {and possibly a man & woman from Wisconsin} would be privy to those facts.
I was somewhat surprised at the results of the recent Amnesty poll, where the majority voted "NO" on amnesty

My surprise stems from the fact that I don't understand the usefulness of censorship; which is in effect what the banning results in. It's the internet folks!! What is said on here really can't harm you Grow a thicker skin folks. To me it would be worth it to read 20 insulting or frivolous comments from any of the six ex posters listed above for the possibility of finding that helpful tip that could help me to solve a problem in my training or possibly enhance the health or well being of my pet.

Ask yourselves if you feel that RTF is a better or worse resource without the input of the 6 ex posters referred to; as well as the numerous others who have been banned or quit posting due to indifference. I would argue that the major asset of a resource like RTF is the collective wisdom of its participants; without that you have nothing. However Im aware it is the janitors asset to do with it as he pleases. If the banned don't like it they can either grovel for forgiveness or create a better mousetrap

In my time off I have randomly checked the credentials of posters on recent threads and compared them to posters on some older threads. The difference was substantial. Nature abhors a vacuum, so without the input of the old experts you have some wannabes with a SR Hunter or couple of Jr passes offering up their solutions. There have been recent threads about supposed solutions to problems at the line; simple research reveals that the poster is still not having success while muddling around in middle or lower level Hunt Tests This wouldn't have happened & would have been exposed on the old RTF
IMO the resource is markedly diminished due to the absence of these folks. Apparently the rationale for banning is to promote a more peanutty atmosphere. If you look at the recent abuse heaped on Jennifer Henion by some on a thread dealing with a humorous youtube video of a guy yelling at his out of control dog and TooTalls less than peanutty treatment in the LeanMac thread I would say it appears that the peanut rule can be randomly applied, depending on who is involved. I sort of saw the need for both of those posters to get slapped around a bit, and would definitely not advocate any sanctions.
Monday Ill be heading back across the big pond for a few months, hopefully upon my return RTF will have welcomed in some new and old wisdom.
 
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#132 ·
I enjoy CIVIL spirited discussion. Ad hominem attacks are pretty much never helpful. First one to call "stupidhead" loses the argument and my respect. No one, including me, likes being told they are wrong, but I resent name calling and ignore (only reason I ever put anyone ON ignore) those who resort to it.
 
#136 ·
when you come to Seattle you'll find the street venders at all the ball games selling dogs the way I've described. Try it at your next BBQ- btw- onions must be grilled.
 
#140 ·
when you come to Seattle you'll find the street venders at all the ball games selling dogs the way I've described. Try it at your next BBQ- btw- onions must be grilled.
If you can get it at a (baseball) park, it's probably okay...
 
#141 ·
I like Dutch cheese
 
#144 · (Edited)
Flying to Oxford MS a few years ago from Grand Cayman. We were forced by weather to put in to Tallahassee for the night. Got a room and asked the desk clerk where to eat. "Why catfish camp, across the road", he replied. Showered and changed, the five sunburned boys wandered across the road to the catfish camp restaurant.
"What's the special"? we inquired of our waitress.
"Catfish", she replied,"and shrimp".
"Whats that come with?" I asked.
She looked us over and dipped her head, "cheese grits...." (Now I'm not a southern boy, but I've had some grits a few times, but not with cheese.) So I asked, "Cheese grits...what are those like"?
Well, she looked at us five sunburned boys, flying home from the Caribbean and said, "Oh....kinda like a yeast infection."
Well, we had five specials and flew home the next day.

It's the cheesist regards....JD

PS If that doesn't kill this thread....??
 
#145 ·
Butter in a cast iron pan. StArt adding slices of cheddar. Fry till crispy and put on hot garlic bread
 
#166 ·
Yes, one must remember... Competition sets a bar standard. If you never compete, how can you fully assess how high your own bar is set?
 
#168 ·
There is no reason that discussion on RTF cannot be civil, regardless of the qualifications of the poster.

Saying that people were chased away from RTF because they were denied the freedom to engage in crude, personal attacks makes no sense at all.
 
#169 ·
There is no reason that discussion on RTF cannot be civil, regardless of the qualifications of the poster.

Saying that people were chased away from RTF because they were denied the freedom to engage in crude, personal attacks makes no sense at all.

Ted, You're kind of the "pot calling the kettle black" in this type of conversation. For much of your comments would give no credit to anyone who was less than a National Qualifier.
 
#173 ·
This thread started with sour milk, turned into a happy muenster, and now has taken a very active turn towards.......???????

Hopefully a rich, salty Stilton.

But we're at a crucial point, people--could turn rotten if we're not careful.... Let's keep the atmosphere conducive to successful cheesemaking!

I'm making some assumptions and boiling this down a bit (I don't mean to offend, just to make a point brief): Ted's expertise seems to be in figuring out how to win. If that's not what someone else is after, he is going to look at Ted's post, consider its usefulness to his situation, and take the appropriate action.
 
#184 · (Edited)


"Haters got to hate."
At the end of the day, no matter what you post, I'll still be me and YOU will still be you!


Have a lovely day!:D
 
#188 ·
Payback's a biotch, lovely 70 degrees up this way, trained 4 MH dogs, 2 triple setups, 3 crosswind blinds, diversion, poison bird, don't think any of us broke a sweat. RTF coffee break from the real world regards. ;-)

Oh, btw, having seen some of the Nat Am, would love to train with Ted anytime, vs a bunch of disgruntled Internet experts.
 
#197 ·
Oh, btw, having seen some of the Nat Am, would love to train with Ted anytime, vs a bunch of disgruntled Internet experts.
I don't see anyone in this thread who is disgruntled or offers up much training advice. Well, I see one or two maybe...lol
 
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