Julie R., Hope Springs Farm
Chesapeake Bay Retrievers since 1981
It sounds like the amateurs who run and financially support hunt tests have lost control of their sport to professional trainers who depend on amateurs for their livelihood.
Tail Wagging The Dog Regards
Regrettably Ed, I think all the dog games are headed in that direction.
"Force fetch isn't about retrieving as much as it is conditioning a dog to handle pressure, in a very controlled environment. It's about putting a dog in the position of having to figure out how to turn off pressure by finding the correct response. This translates into numerous areas in training." Sharon Potter.
if everyone had to snail mail the check and enter old school and we did the random draw out of a salad bowl on the test secs kitchen table none of this would be an issue. This is all Shayne's fault! Pesky little ferret changed the sport, he did.
And we all went Woo Hoo this is great! Well?????????????????????????????? hows it working out? Nobody saw this comming?
"So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold
"The Greatest Obstacle to Discovery is not Ignorance -- It is the Illusion of Knowledge" ~ Daniel Boorstin
I agree, watched at least a dozen "owners" last weekend come forward to collect the ribbon there dog and "pro" earned for them, and can't recall any of them stepping forward to help out either, guess it's more fun to sit in a chair and watch your dog and collect a ribbon at the end of the day than participate, I can see if you want your dog to run the MN and you don't have the time or finances to do it your self then fine send the dog with someone to run it but the weekend hunt tests are a different story, run the dog yourself...
So if there's a Master HT that is limited to 90 dogs and there are 120 dogs that want to run, there will be 30 who are SOL, right?
How do any of the "solutions" offered remedy that situation? Limit number of dogs per handler, eliminate pros, eliminate EE,. etc ... there will still be 30 dogs that get shut out.
Just a matter of which ones.
ďDonít wave your phony patriotism in MY face! If you really love America, open your wallet and hire an American kid to build what you buy. Doug Fraser (paraphrased) 1980
Real Americans buy American.
Snowshoe's All American Guy SH, UDX, WCX ... CODY ... at the bridge
CH. Snowshoe's Girl Crazy MH, UD, WCX, SDHF, OS ... PRESLEY ... at the bridge
Millpond's Baby Boomer MH, QA2 ... BABE (Q win, 2 2nds, 4th, 3 Open greenies, Am greenie, $20 )
Snowshoe's Crazy For Lovin You SH ... NELSON
I've spent an hour reading and my own two-dog self is thinking, this is really, really bad. I didn't see this coming. I am a little bit afraid I might have voted for it somehow? Seemed like a good idea at the time...
Trying to think of solutions:
* OWNER must enter, not handler (nor handler's assistant--hard to monitor--but 20 entries coming from the same IP might be a tip-off to abusers?)
* Date and time of opening for entries must be published at least (one month?) in advance.
* Wait list, in order of entry.
* Scratches for injury, death, and in-season only; must be sent by the vet to EE and refund must come through Ee.
That's all I've got.
Technology is convenient when it doesn't screw everything up.
Last edited by luvalab; 07-12-2013 at 09:25 PM.
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