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    Default General questions about Spaniel Hunt Tests

    I am totally unfamiliar with the Spaniel hunt tests, and need some general information.

    One I was looking at says that the total entries are limited to 50 dogs. There is a division for Junior Hunter, 2 divisions for Senior Hunter (A and B), and a division for Master Hunter, with a note that says they will add judges if JH or MH needs to be split.

    So the way my math works out, there will be *about* 12 dogs in each division. Even if everyone enters just Senior, that's still only 25 dogs per division.

    How long does it take to run each dog in the Spaniel tests? Are these real long tests, so they can only have 50 dogs total?

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    also, would anyone who has actually run the Spaniel tests or is quite familiar with them please PM me so that I can get some guidance as to what level my dog would enter? Thanks in advance.

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    It's been 10-12 years since I observed a spaniel test. Easiest thing to do is: http://images.akc.org/pdf/rulebooks/RHTSPN.pdf. The specific requirements start on page 23, Section 10.
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    I suggest that you call the HT secretary, or club officer,(listed on the entry form) for a more detailed explanation re how the tests are run. Eric Johnson is correct in referring you to the Rule Book.. Good Luck
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    Thanks for the replies.
    I'm a rule book junkie, and have read the rule book. But sometimes you get more enlightening feedback from people who have run the tests than what the rule books tell you!

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    This looks to be one of those situations where, you'd have to run it or watch it to get the real picture. By the rule book, looks like a SH retriever should do fine in a Master test, water blind, and steady for water retrieve. The flushing component sounds very akin an to HRC upland, which require two finds and steady to shot, depending on the dog you might need a higher level of control than a SH dog, maybe even a higher level of control than many MH dogs . The hunt dead, doesn't seem to be a trail, more of a hunt'emup, distances are pretty short. Might have to adjust to an over running issue. Looks like a handling dog would be an asset, but didn't read anything about the use of whistles, just "dog must be under handler control at all times and put on a good hunt".

    If I had a steady upland hunting & handling dog I'd put them in Master, unsteady that delivers to hand Senior. It looks fun, put a dog in and report back
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    The hunt dead is just a simple land blind and the water blinds are generally very easy and quite short. If you have an SH level handling dog the blinds should not be a problem. If the dog is steady to flush, shot and fall enter master. You can use a whistle for the upland flushing portion of the test . There is no "staged" trailing test, but the birds can move after they are planted. Every spaniel hunt test I have been to has been done by 12-1 pm. There is usually only 1 set of judges for junior, senior and master and entries are usually fairly small. If anyone has questions they want to discuss they can PM me for my phone number and I would be happy to talk you through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotel4dogs View Post
    I am totally unfamiliar with the Spaniel hunt tests, and need some general information.

    One I was looking at says that the total entries are limited to 50 dogs. There is a division for Junior Hunter, 2 divisions for Senior Hunter (A and B), and a division for Master Hunter, with a note that says they will add judges if JH or MH needs to be split.

    So the way my math works out, there will be *about* 12 dogs in each division. Even if everyone enters just Senior, that's still only 25 dogs per division.

    How long does it take to run each dog in the Spaniel tests? Are these real long tests, so they can only have 50 dogs total?

    Thanks!
    There just telling you that the junior class and Master class are under the same judges.

    The junior is vary simple, one land series up-land with two pigeon and a simple water mark.( goes vary fast)
    The master consist of a land series, with two contacts ( pheasants) a hunt dead, sort of like a blind, but you don't quite know where the bird is and a water series. Which is like a shorten up Retriever senior, with one mark.

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    Thanks for the information.
    This just sounds like something that my dog would love to do.

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    Barb, if you do it with Tito, please report back on how it was and please take pictures! It sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for the thread!

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