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    This is way harder than it has to be and a little painful to read. If you don't see a reaction it may not be there or you may not know what you are looking for. For the sake of you and your dog find someone that does, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce MacPherson View Post
    This is way harder than it has to be and a little painful to read. If you don't see a reaction it may not be there or you may not know what you are looking for. For the sake of you and your dog find someone that does, please.
    Yea cause I'm sure you have never had questions about training your dogs. I use this site for information and to learn and grow as a trainer. If I had the funds to seek out a professional trainer what would I need this site for? Simply trying to learn the ropes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunssmoke3217 View Post
    Yea cause I'm sure you have never had questions about training your dogs. I use this site for information and to learn and grow as a trainer. If I had the funds to seek out a professional trainer what would I need this site for? Simply trying to learn the ropes
    Ok cowboy, turn that collar up and get to training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunssmoke3217 View Post
    Yea cause I'm sure you have never had questions about training your dogs. I use this site for information and to learn and grow as a trainer. If I had the funds to seek out a professional trainer what would I need this site for? Simply trying to learn the ropes
    It appears you've gotten enough good advice to begin sorting the wheat from the chaff. At this point I think you should be deciding on a sound program and moving on. Discussion forums can be helpful, but as you can see they can also become a vehicle of diminishing returns. Learn, focus, and move forward. Good luck.

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    It just dawned on me that u are using a Sport Dog ecollar. It may well be the problem. Look under Product Review. The reviews are not good. I would suggest a Tritronics ecollar. Although some like Dogstra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunssmoke3217 View Post
    Yea cause I'm sure you have never had questions about training your dogs. I use this site for information and to learn and grow as a trainer. If I had the funds to seek out a professional trainer what would I need this site for? Simply trying to learn the ropes
    You live in MN, swing a stick and hit a pro, in the summer anyway. I would really, really encourage you to try to connect with one (a good one, with references), pay for a private lesson, you don't have to send off your dog, you can enjoy learning to train, but, cannot stress enough, what you will learn hands on from a good trainer in person, the great return on such an investment. Truly, priceless. FF, CC, the most basic foundations for our dogs, the most important time to learn how to read, when and how to progress, correct and be fair, not something many can finesse by watching a DVD or reading a book, which are great for education, but can't replace hands on experience. Good luck, keep an open mind and not a chip on your shoulder, people mostly want to be sure the dogs are being trained fairly, that's all.
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    I think if you read smartworks and forgive me Evan, if I'm wrong, but it more or less says, start low and keep increasing until you read a change in your dog's behavior.

    That said and if everything is functioning correctly, including your assessment of "no reaction", the answer is a simple YES.
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    Given the collar being used I am concerned about the "everything functioning correctly". Do u know anyone with a Tritronics or Dogstra ecollar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    I think if you read smartworks and forgive me Evan, if I'm wrong, but it more or less says, start low and keep increasing until you read a change in your dog's behavior.

    That said and if everything is functioning correctly, including your assessment of "no reaction", the answer is a simple YES.
    You've pretty much got it, Darrin. Of course the CC process takes a bit more explaining, but that principle is correct.

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    thanks for all the information! I had it on her last night while training and i dont think I had it on her properly before. I notice some eye twitches and head movements on the stimulations. I turned it down one level once i saw that and she responded well. She did want to turn her head back at times to cause she didnt really know what that feeling was but she follwed through on commands.

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