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    Default Five Suggestions for the black community

    Anybody catch this: http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...oints.cnn.html ? Sort of a bolstering of Bill O'Reilley's comments from last week, except from a black commentator this time.
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    On #4, when the welfare section 8 leaches moved in across from our condo one day I heard vistors there. The Mom lashed out used that word with her kids and said something like "Stop acting like N**** or you will be treated like N*****. As far as I'm concerned if the black comunity can use the word so can I after that day. I just spent 3 months rehabbing my trashed rental and boy did I here stuff that would have me the white person in deep trouble. Section 8 somehow moved in diagonally across the street and man were the other neighbors pissed and telling their kids loudly not to start acting like "the gehto trash".
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    Very much like what Bill Cosby said quite a while ago. Of course, he's probably considered too old and too uncool for younger people ... so if some younger black people, like this commentator, would continue to make statements like this it might help.

    It's just as true of any group at all that wants to get respect within their larger society ... dress and behave in a way that engenders respect. I believe it's also been studied that dressing in a way that others consider worthy of respect, also creates more self-esteem for the individual who dresses that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    Very much like what Bill Cosby said quite a while ago. Of course, he's probably considered too old and too uncool for younger people ... so if some younger black people, like this commentator, would continue to make statements like this it might help.

    It's just as true of any group at all that wants to get respect within their larger society ... dress and behave in a way that engenders respect. I believe it's also been studied that dressing in a way that others consider worthy of respect, also creates more self-esteem for the individual who dresses that way.
    Had to take a state licensing exam at a local community college, on every mirror in the bathroom they had a sticker that said "Would you hire this person?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Had to take a state licensing exam at a local community college, on every mirror in the bathroom they had a sticker that said "Would you hire this person?".
    Did it make you take that chicken bone out of your cheek?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Little View Post
    Did it make you take that chicken bone out of your cheek?
    It was years ago, I removed my Bush/Cheney button.

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    I dont care who says it or who gets the credit, the black community needs to get it fixed. White people want them to get it fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quackwacker View Post
    I dont care who says it or who gets the credit, the black community needs to get it fixed. White people want them to get it fixed!
    Then the "White Liberal Plantation Owners" wouldn't have anything to "Feel" guilty about. Bunch of "Whites" just love feeling good about Spreadin other folks wealth down in the hood so they don't move into their hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    Very much like what Bill Cosby said quite a while ago. Of course, he's probably considered too old and too uncool for younger people ... so if some younger black people, like this commentator, would continue to make statements like this it might help.

    It's just as true of any group at all that wants to get respect within their larger society ... dress and behave in a way that engenders respect. I believe it's also been studied that dressing in a way that others consider worthy of respect, also creates more self-esteem for the individual who dresses that way.
    Cosby was deemed an "Oreo" by the Blacks in this country even while his TV series was on the air, and being watched by Blacks AND whites by huge percentages. I enjoyed the program immensly.

    But prejudice isn't just a white thing, OR a Black Thing...here in this part of Sodak it's very prevelant. I managed 7 years of LL and Pony Baseball teams, with as many as 4 indians, or as we referred to them, Native Americans...at a time on my team. But when one of them didn't comply with the rules the rest of the team members played by, like if you aren't on time to the practices you can't start, and if you don't come to practices you can't play the next game. BUT that didn't stop the parents of our regular center fielder of calling me an "racist" because I sat their kid out when he was seen twice that previous week riding his bike in another part of the city, while the rest of the players were practicing. These AIM dignitaries were quick to also call the N/A Mayor of the city, as well as the other 3 N/A players on the team by that equally derogatory name as "Oreo'. These basicly fine Americans were referred to as 'Apples'. How is it that I'M the racist and the bad dude in this equation?

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    Here's another "Black" that has some suggestions for the plight of Blacks, and where most of the faults are located.

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    Black Self-Sabotage




    By: Walter Williams





    If we put ourselves into the shoes of racists who seek to sabotage black upward mobility, we couldn’t develop a more effective agenda than that followed by civil rights organizations, black politicians, academics, liberals and the news media. Let’s look at it.




    First, weaken the black family, but don’t blame it on individual choices. You have to preach that today’s weak black family is a legacy of slavery, Jim Crow and racism. The truth is that black female-headed households were just 18 percent of households in 1950, as opposed to about 68 percent today. In fact, from 1890 to 1940, the black marriage rate was slightly higher than that of whites. Even during slavery, when marriage was forbidden for blacks, most black children lived in biological two-parent families. In New York City, in 1925, 85 percent of black households were two-parent households. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were two-parent households.


    During the 1960s, devastating nonsense emerged, exemplified by a Johns Hopkins University sociology professor who argued, “It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes.” The real issue, he went on to say, “is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income.” That suggests marriage and fatherhood can be replaced by a welfare check.


    The poverty rate among blacks is 36 percent. Most black poverty is found in female-headed households. The poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits since 1994 and is about 8 percent today. The black illegitimacy rate is 75 percent, and in some cities, it’s 90 percent. But if that’s a legacy of slavery, it must have skipped several generations, because in the 1940s, unwed births hovered around 14 percent.


    Along with the decline of the black family comes anti-social behavior, manifested by high crime rates. Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation’s population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, the black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it’s 22 times that of whites. I’d like for the president, the civil rights establishment, white liberals and the news media, who spent massive resources protesting the George Zimmerman trial’s verdict, to tell the nation whether they believe that the major murder problem blacks face is murder by whites. There are no such protests against the thousands of black murders.


    There’s an organization called NeighborhoodScout. Using 2011 population data from the U.S. Census Bureau, 2011 crime statistics from the FBI and information from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies in the country, it came up with a report titled “Top 25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods in America.”

    They include neighborhoods in Detroit, Chicago, Houston, St. Louis and other major cities. What’s common to all 25 neighborhoods is that their makeup is described as “Black” or “Mostly Black.” The high crime rates have several outcomes that are not in the best interests of the overwhelmingly law-abiding people in these neighborhoods. There can’t be much economic development. Property has a lower value, but worst of all, people can’t live with the kind of personal security that most Americans enjoy.


    Disgustingly, black politicians, civil rights leaders, liberals and the president are talking nonsense about “having a conversation about race.” That’s beyond useless. Tell me how a conversation with white people is going to stop black predators from preying on blacks. How is such a conversation going to eliminate the 75 percent illegitimacy rate? What will such a conversation do about the breakdown of the black family (though “breakdown” is not the correct word, as the family doesn’t form in the first place)? Only black people can solve our problems.


    Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.
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