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    Default Cigar Hold.

    No matter what I try my dog ends up cigaring the bumper. She also wants to pick up on the ends alot. She understands the hold command but she has a very soft mouth. All advice is welcome.

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    Mine does the same thing. She will not ever be a FT or HT dog. I asked for advice on here and most people told me not to worry about it. I still correct her (put the bumper properly in her mouth after retrieve) but 9 times out of ten she returns with a "cigared" bumper. My pro said that when she gets on birds this might change. As Wauyne Nutt commented, " I've never seen a dog cigar a bird!!

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    My dog does the same thing, no matter how many times I correct him. I personally see this a lot more when he is hot. “I think its easier for them to pant when they cigar the bumper” If my pup drops I follow with a Fetch “nick” Fetch but most of the time he has the bumper back in his mouth before I can react to him dropping it.

    Like Mr. Nutt they don’t cigar birds. Get you a live bird and let it break the hold of your dog and it will be the last time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your pup will not be happy about that bird running off and pup will make sure it holds on after that….
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked on Quack View Post
    Mine does the same thing. She will not ever be a FT or HT dog. I asked for advice on here and most people told me not to worry about it. I still correct her (put the bumper properly in her mouth after retrieve) but 9 times out of ten she returns with a "cigared" bumper. My pro said that when she gets on birds this might change. As Wauyne Nutt commented, " I've never seen a dog cigar a bird!!
    Agree with this!

    How does your dog do with birds??? Some dogs just cigar bumpers! BUT if they dont drop them I'd be fine with it Win the battle not the war!!!! You can apply more and more pressure here and maybe cause bigger issues!! If the dog doesnt have issues with birds no worries!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriseKillEat View Post
    No matter what I try my dog ends up cigaring the bumper. She also wants to pick up on the ends alot. She understands the hold command but she has a very soft mouth. All advice is welcome.
    My young guy did the same. Started using the Large Avery Hex bumpers.......Problem solved!!!
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    As dog starts getting tired they start panting and I notice too that my dog starts cigaring hold. Try to put wrap wire on both ends of the bumper and it will help. Just try it and then continue to fix the bumper when dog gets to the heel position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked on Quack View Post
    Mine doesAs Wauyne Nutt commented, " I've never seen a dog cigar a bird!!
    And then I posted 2 pictures of different dogs cigar-ing ducks. You own what you condone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan View Post
    and then i posted 2 pictures of different dogs cigar-ing ducks. You own what you condone.

    Evan
    boom!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Sometimes it's quite useful, "Spoony, what spoony?"



    That was a silly picture to illustrate what I've found to be a silly concern. That dog frequently cigars bumpers and sometimes cigars birds:



    But he's put several thousand ducks and geese in the log without a hold related loss that I'm aware of.
    If you think I'm wrong, you might be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Hall View Post
    Sometimes it's quite useful, "Spoony, what spoony?"



    That was a silly picture to illustrate what I've found to be a silly concern. That dog frequently cigars bumpers and sometimes cigars birds:



    But he's put several thousand ducks and geese in the log without a hold related loss that I'm aware of.
    How dare you let that dog do that Rick.haaaaa!
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