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    Default Newbie Hunt Test questions about started class ???

    Got a couple of questions, and need ya'lls advice !


    There's a HRC Hunt test at the end of the month here locally, and I have already taken vacation from work to go, so I am going for sure either way !
    I have a 8 month old BLF that I am sure most here know broke her leg when she was 3 months old, that's hopefully behind us now, and she has came along well in her training ! We have finished force fetch, and am currently working on stick fetch/stick to pile, and if everything goes well she should be ready for starting collar conditioning to commands next week, She delivers both bumpers, and birds (dead and cripples) to heel/hand, and is doing simple doubles both on land and water, marks are being thrown remotely with wingers.
    Only issues we have right now is due to her injury, and lay off for so long we have not worked up to long distance marking, but she is reliable out to 50 to 60 yards, but any futher she starts checking up and hunting short of fall ! (Were working on this now) .


    I have never been to a hunt test! So like I said I am going, to atleast see what it's all about and what to expect !

    My 2 questions are !!! Being I am going should I enter my pup in the started class, with the current training she has ? From the guys I know that have been before, or run dogs in hunt test they say she's ready from talking to them and explaining were we at in her training, and how she's doing !

    OR should I just go and observe, and get a idea of what to expect ?? I am in no hurry to enter her ! But do want to, and look forward to in the future ! and figured I may give it a try being I am going, but don't want to enter her if I risk issues in her training, or if ya'll think she does not have a chance to get a pass with were she is at currently!

    Also If I don't enter her, can I carry her to atleast get her around the enviroment, or is this frowned upon ?

    Just looking for ya'lls opinions that have been there ! My heart wants to enter her, but I keep second guessing if she's ready, Mostly due to me not knowing what to expect, how advanced in training she needs to be, and her lack of socialization with other dogs because I have been unable to let her play with them until recently due to her injury !

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    NO do not enter her. You have plenty of time and she is still recovering from her serious injury.

    Go watch, have fun, keep training.

    Meredith

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    THANKS ! She has been cleared by her specialist to full activity! althugh I am still taking it slow with her, just for my own caution !


    So you say NO, Is it ok to take her along just for the experience with the sights, sounds, and smells ?

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    Would I run her if she was my dog?? No...would she be able to pass a started test... from what you are describing, yes. If you just wanna take her just to be around it that will be just fine. Just keep her on a leash, quiet and out of the way. BTW, if you decide against mine and Meredith's advice, you can sign up the day of the event...although the club secretary may give you dirty looks.
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    THANKS Guys NO I will listen to your advice !!! I am hesitant anyway to enter due to mine/our inexperience ! I do look forward to going to watch though, I'm addicted and ain't even been to one yet ! Thanks for ya'lls advice !


    Although from ya'lls advice ya'll have me scared to train her ! I am already scared of a re injury, and I have been training her atleast once a week on hunt test type marks, and situations, like water marks out to 70 or 80 yards, and Land marks in light to moderate cover out to 60 to 75 yards! I have been swimming the fire out of her to build her back up with low impact! Am I doing to much with her ????

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    Hi Flippin' I've got a different opinion on it than Meredith does. Your pup broke it's leg 5 months ago. That should be well healed, if not ignore my post.

    You say she's good to 50ish yards now, you have 3 weeks until the hunt test. I've found that stretching them out is fairly easy. I'd continue to work her for the next 3 weeks and run her in the test. Stretch her out but don't do all her marks with the the idea of improving her max range, mix in a good number of short marks, half of them or more.

    You will never watch a test so closely as when you are entered. I'd just about bet that you will see things from your pup that you have never seen in training.

    Bring her, run her, both of you have fun. If she passes, GREAT!! If she doesn't but it's not the end of the world. You'll have a good idea of what to train on before you enter her in another.
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    I'm with Howard. If leg is good then go for it. I think there is a gun at the line for started so take the noise into consideration too though. You will get much more out of your trip to the test if you go to the line.

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    Go ahead and run Started.

    Music City is always a fun test. Tell the marshal you have never ran before and sit back and watch a few dogs.

    Hold onto the collar, remember to breathe, and have a good time.
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    I'd run it.

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    just talked to a trainer (going to be judging seasoned) and from what he said it is filling up quickly so might want to sign up now and if you have to pull her out for some reason you can get your money back. reason I say this is they will have 6 finished flights and 2 seasoned flights because everything is filling up and also the first test of the fall in the south east and everyone is ready to go (as am I but cant run this test)

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