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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Today's GOP only appeals to certain regions of the country and to white males over 55 years of age. !
    Not true... Strong GOP forever including being female, living in liberal lala land of CT and under 30!
    Send any hard working federal income tax payer to a situation where you work hard, buy your first home ( condo) and then THE STUPID LIBERAL SOCIALIST IDIOT GOVT gives the welfare leaches YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY VIA section 8 (STOLEN SOCIALIST CRAP) and they move in below you and across from you.
    YOu will forever hate all democrats and never ever feal any simpathy for the leaches who made you life hell and even made it hard to get to work to pay their bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    Not true... Strong GOP forever including being female, living in liberal lala land of CT and under 30!
    Send any hard working federal income tax payer to a situation where you work hard, buy your first home ( condo) and then THE STUPID LIBERAL SOCIALIST IDIOT GOVT gives the welfare leaches YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY VIA section 8 (STOLEN SOCIALIST CRAP) and they move in below you and across from you.
    YOu will forever hate all democrats and never ever feal any simpathy for the leaches who made you life hell and even made it hard to get to work to pay their bills.
    Innie CHance u coud riHgt thiss inn Engush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Could you show some figures that show that the Dems are growing unions? All the figures I see don't back your claim. Seems to me the Republicans are competing for the illegal votes by attempting to import them also.
    How about the bs they pulled with the labor board, boeing and SC!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Innie CHance u coud riHgt thiss inn Engush.
    Any chance you could write this in English. Happy now? Sorry, typing left handed only and I'm right handed due to surgery on my right hand yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    How about the bs they pulled with the labor board, boeing and SC!!!
    Luv, you would have to go back to the original post I quoted, Swamp claimed that the Democrats are growing union membership when the fact of the matter is they've been on the decline for many years. His statement was simply false in regards to unions, not trying to turn this into a union thread just trying to keep it truthful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Luv, you would have to go back to the original post I quoted, Swamp claimed that the Democrats are growing union membership when the fact of the matter is they've been on the decline for many years. His statement was simply false in regards to unions, not trying to turn this into a union thread just trying to keep it truthful.
    The dums are trying by any means whether legal or blackmail to increase union numbers. The SC Boeing issue is a blatent example of the total disregard for the rule of law!
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    The Abortion Issue should left to the individual states to determine policy. If your state votes to ban them, the people have spoken. Just as within the Repub Party, Libertarians are divided on the issue yet agree that it should be left up to the individual states.
    I still get hung up on the "right to life" being in the Constitution, so how could that really be left up to the states?

    This really becomes an issue for me with abortions over 20 weeks. If 20-week babies are viable, which may become the case through technological advances, how could infanticide become legal? And, what of abortions much later than the 20th week?

    I think I am correct that both Ron & Rand Paul do not favor abortion (with some exceptions) ... yet Ron calls himself a Libertarian. I think Rand has not been as quick to say he is ... or maybe both of them say they "favor" Libertarian views, which might mean that there are some instances where they might disagree with those views?

    I seem to recall that Rand's visit to Israel made him re-think whether we should be giving aid to Israel (from no to yes) v. Ron's view which seemed to be that Israel was no more deserving of our aid than a lot of countries who hate us. Could be wrong, but that was my "take" on their views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    I still get hung up on the "right to life" being in the Constitution, so how could that really be left up to the states?

    This really becomes an issue for me with abortions over 20 months. If 20-month babies are viable, which may become the case through technological advances, how could infanticide become legal? And, what of abortions much later than the 20th month?

    I think I am correct that both Ron & Rand Paul do not favor abortion (with some exceptions) ... yet Ron calls himself a Libertarian. I think Rand has not been as quick to say he is ... or maybe both of them say they "favor" Libertarian views, which might mean that there are some instances where they might disagree with those views?

    I seem to recall that Rand's visit to Israel made him re-think whether we should be giving aid to Israel (from no to yes) v. Ron's view which seemed to be that Israel was no more deserving of our aid than a lot of countries who hate us. Could be wrong, but that was my "take" on their views.
    Because there are certain provisions for States to determine their own laws. Though Federal law trumps State laws. Personally, I am tired of the abortion debate and letting the states determine which is best for them hopefully will lay the agruement to rest and just maybe we can go onto more important issues. For instance, the state of Mississippi should not determine how the people of Michigan should live or impact their laws. Yes, we have "right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and the debate is whether a fetus is life.

    Both Ron and Rand personally oppose abortion. However, as strict Constitutionalist they are trying to work within that system. Yes Ron is a Libertarian and Rand was more of a Libertarian before he became more pragamatic in trying to work within the Repub Party. Libertarians have been very critical of Rand because many feel he is being corrupted by the Repubs and is compromising Liberty. Though he had publicly stated that the Repubs need to adobt more Libertarian ideals, is he hiding his Libertarian core or has he really been corrupted? Both have also stated that the issues of Gay Rights and MJ should also be determined by the states. More power to the states and less power for the Feds, basiclly.

    Rand does support aide to Isreal. Giving aide to the Muslim world should be a no no. Ron would stop all Foreign Aide and I support that position. Isreal is loaded with money and weapons. The IDF is as well equiped and trained as any military in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Abortions after 20 months are simply ridiculous, where are those being done?
    Fixed it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Luv, you would have to go back to the original post I quoted, Swamp claimed that the Democrats are growing union membership when the fact of the matter is they've been on the decline for many years. His statement was simply false in regards to unions, not trying to turn this into a union thread just trying to keep it truthful.
    MN, if you go back and check, I asked for your data.....I see you provided none....regardless let me clarify anyway....the raw numbers of Union workers in the USA have, as you say, dropped continually for some time. This is due to the unemployment in the last 5 years coupled with the decline in America manufacturing over the last two decades. But if you look at the number of union workers as a % of the total work force you will see that it is increasing, dramatically. Partially due to the massive Growth of the Government and partially due to the billions of dollars Obama and his administration have pored into the union...I hope that clears up my point...keeping it "truthful"...
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