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  1. Yes, in 2014

    Yes, in 2014
  2. Yeah, and 96 AA points in 1 year(the most ever)...

    Yeah, and 96 AA points in 1 year(the most ever) isn't too shabby either. She was special, no doubt.
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    Yes and I have it as well, but it doesn't cover...

    Yes and I have it as well, but it doesn't cover basics. That's what I was alluding to. It's technically a handling video, not a training video
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    I own Lardy's, Farmer/Aycock, Graham's...

    I own Lardy's, Farmer/Aycock, Graham's programs(Rorem hasn't produced one, though he did demonstrate taking a dog through most of the basics on the Carr-Rorem seminar) and have watched each several...
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    I never said anything about running into a...

    I never said anything about running into a problem. I said just the opposite. I get the desired response(compulsion to fetch and fetching through distractions) without having to use the stick. I do...
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    Farmer/Aycock, Evan Graham, Dave Rorem, Lardy all...

    Farmer/Aycock, Evan Graham, Dave Rorem, Lardy all spent time learning from Rex Carr himself, yet they all have some differences in their training methods.
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    I personally haven't seen this issue with dog's...

    I personally haven't seen this issue with dog's I've put through FF. After dog has been taught fetch with collar stim from hand and on ground, I add collar stim as last component of walking...
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    That's pretty much the model I follow as well....

    That's pretty much the model I follow as well. Stick fetch is really the only thing I diverge on. And I guess if you 'technically' follow Carr, you have to do slingshot fetch as well. They...
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    I feel I get this same 'escape' response from...

    I feel I get this same 'escape' response from reaching for the dog's ear but not pinching(assuming he fetches quick as expected) as we are going through walking fetch. I'll just touch the ear and the...
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    Haven't had that issue. I move really fast during...

    Haven't had that issue. I move really fast during walking fetch and don't slow down for the dog. If they miss, they get reinforced with ear pinch(even if they are trying to fetch and we are past the...
  11. Thread: Uncle Joe

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    Joe is today’s Dan Quayle...:D

    Joe is today’s Dan Quayle...:D
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    I feel I get this same effect during brisk moving...

    I feel I get this same effect during brisk moving walking fetch with ear pinch reinforcement if dog fails to pickup bumper.
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    The dogs that I've put through FF(minus stick...

    The dogs that I've put through FF(minus stick fetch) haven't shown any lack of compulsion. I get all the compulsion I need in walking fetch.
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    I don't do stick fetch. I transition from ear...

    I don't do stick fetch. I transition from ear pinch to collar very slowly using light pressure with both pinch and collar until the dog understands and is snappy. Then I move to collar only and then...
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    Very good advice. Also, I use a similar...

    Very good advice. Also, I use a similar philosophy in early blind work(not just when I'm having trouble getting a cast). I let dogs carry casts. Don't really care if it takes them well of the line to...
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    The vast majority are very nice as shown by their...

    The vast majority are very nice as shown by their derby accomplishments. I have seen one that was talented, but VERY soft. To the point it really hindered her training. If I was looking for a Clooney...
  17. Totally agree. This is one of the many reasons...

    Totally agree. This is one of the many reasons why I'm personally firmly against running entry level hunt tests. The handler is encouraged to hold the dogs collar and when they let go, it's just as...
  18. Agree with this. You don't have the success that...

    Agree with this. You don't have the success that either of those 2 have had and not be able to adapt to the dog in front of you.
  19. The Carol Cassity duck soup method works well ...

    The Carol Cassity duck soup method works well

    https://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/showthread.php?88202-Training-question-driving-through-drag-back-scent
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    About the same price as a Gunner and not built as...

    About the same price as a Gunner and not built as well(single wall vs double wall). I'd choose gunner every time
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    I would add: Swim as much as possible Rev up...

    I would add:
    Swim as much as possible
    Rev up prey drive as much as possible
    Teach the dog how to learn and make learning/training a positive experience. This is crucial in developing a dog that...
  22. You ever heard Lyle Steinman at the line at an...

    You ever heard Lyle Steinman at the line at an SRS? Talks more than any handler I’ve ever heard personally
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    No problem. There are 2 other videos in the...

    No problem. There are 2 other videos in the series, I'd advise watching those as well. Hillmann does about a good a job as anyone in developing marking in dogs. Not a coincidence that he has a 14.5...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_jH0jYP40Y&t=5s...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_jH0jYP40Y&t=5s
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    Tune up drills, 7 bumper lining drills, 3-peat...

    Tune up drills, 7 bumper lining drills, 3-peat angle exit blinds, etc. Basically anything you can do to work on holding a line in the water and not giving into and squaring the bank
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