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    Novice trainer. Going back to basics with my 6-7month old pup. I've been posting about separate issues and it's all come back to formalizing her OB.

    For the life of me I cannot get her to walk in HEEL position or walk without pulling, corrections on the chain and self corrections with the prong collar are almost completely ignored. The only thing that somewhat works is turning on my heel and bumping her nose with my knee but this works for a very short time. The only other way is if the bumper is under my left arm or in my left hand.

    she understands flying into the heel position during mealtime but pulls like crazy on leash and will not walk in position hardly at all. I know she's still young but I'd like to get this started and I'm still waiting on Lardy's program to arrive.

    videos would be so helpful. I've seen mostly treat training videos on YouTube or videos of trained dogs so I've had trouble finding videos that address the problem. Please help!

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    Wolfatomic, one thing that sometimes helps in situations like this is to share ideas with others (in person). Your profile indicates being located in Reno, Nevada. There is another RTF member with the handle of Lobita that is located in the same city. He was having similar problems, but has not posted up lately. Why not send an RTF PM to Lobita and try to brainstorm these issues out together.

    In addition, a search of retriever clubs would find at least one in Reno plus there appears to be an AKC affiliate that has regular OB classes. A skilled, hands on instructor can prove to be a valuable resource.
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    Is this what you mean?

    Notice how far back I am leaning -- she was strong!

    Heeling with Sparky.jpg
    This girl had so much drive that on this hunt test, she got tangled in the decoys and brought five of them back to shore on her return. The biggest challenge I ever had with her was -- like a fine champagne -- was keeping the drive bottled up until....

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    A good method to use to stop pulling is to counteract it. Your dog is old enough to start using other aversives other than the chain. Start putting pressure on the sit command either with stick or collar and the result should be lagging at heel. Voila! Pulling is gone.

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    Apply your knee to her cheek a few times firmly and watch what happens, and shut your pie hole while you're doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Marshall View Post
    Start putting pressure on the sit command either with stick or collar and the result should be lagging at heel. Voila! Pulling is gone.
    this might sound like a silly question but could you explain in detail? This sounds like something I could do with her I just need to know how to go about it properly. I've heard of other people using a heeling stick but I'm not sure how to go about using it. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by miketuggle View Post
    Is this what you mean?

    Notice how far back I am leaning -- she was strong!

    Heeling with Sparky.jpg
    This girl had so much drive that on this hunt test, she got tangled in the decoys and brought five of them back to shore on her return. The biggest challenge I ever had with her was -- like a fine champagne -- was keeping the drive bottled up until....

    Mike
    yup! She isn't that hard on pulling yet but her drive would take her through a pile of burning coal if there was a bumper on the other side!
    Keeping her energy and her little bouncy self under control is what I'm striving for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KwickLabs View Post
    In addition, a search of retriever clubs would find at least one in Reno plus there appears to be an AKC affiliate that has regular OB classes. A skilled, hands on instructor can prove to be a valuable resource.
    I did get in contact with a retriever club but do to it being winter, they are not meeting until warmer weather shows up. I will look for that affiliate you mentioned and hopefully I can get some help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    Apply your knee to her cheek a few times firmly and watch what happens, and shut your pie hole while you're doing it.
    There was another one of my mistakes, I'll make sure to keep my mouth shut this time, I'll see how she responds.

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    I use a healing a stick. Have your pup at heel start walking when there head gets past your knee tap them in chest while giving the command heel. After a few times of this I hold the stick in front of them so they know how far our they can go. Good luck hope this helps

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