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    Quote Originally Posted by roslandva View Post
    Hi.
    First of all, thanks for a really good forum with alot of experienced trainers and handlers. If my english is abit off I apologize this - I'm Norwegian..

    I have a question conserning training in water. My dog (17 months) is a "retrieving maniac". He absolutly loves it! The problem is when we do waterworks. Almost everytime he is coming out of the water he drops the bumper, shakes, before he picks the bumper up and delievers to hand. I've heard different solutions that might help to this, but just wanted to hear if anybody has any drills that has worked especially good for them? I dont do FF, but he is good at "HOLD". I've heard some people say that I should start running backwards as the dog is returning - making him nervous that I will disapear and therefore rushing out of the water to be with me (still holding on to the bumper). Another approach is to stand close to the wateredge, catching the bumper as the dog is coming out of the water and not giving him the chance to shake. This could also be done with having a steep edge from the water and up to me, forcing the dog to really work before he gets by my side.

    Any thoughts?
    Wow...Welcome big time.
    Yes some folks will walk backwards and give verbal "Hold".
    If as you say that dogs "Hold" is rigid, then the light bulb will come on to the dog and will shake while bumper is still in his mouth while you are commanding "Hold".
    Just be patient.
    Enjoy the journey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polmaise View Post
    Lol ..Now if that same philosophy was used with every task we would not have so many questions ....
    I never did like the 'verbal' command 'shake' however........as the dog was ''''''gonna do it anyway'''' but I'm sure some folks like to be in ear shot of others ..
    You could insert 'Sit' ? or any other

    I teach shake, because I'm not a fan of having water thrown all over me when it's 15 degrees in the duck blind

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    Thanks everyone! I'm sure he'll figure it out pretty soon I dont make him sit next to me before delivery, he is just tought to deliever to hand in front. Think I'll just focus on the WALKING away-process as this seems to be the preferred method.

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    The walking away as the dog got out of the water didn't work for me, as soon as all 4 feet were on dry ground she was going to shake. What worked for me was, while standing at the waters edge as she got close but before she got out of the water I'd start saying hold, just like I did on land when teaching hold. If she dropped it a firm NOOOO! And back in her mouth with the hold command with pressure on her chin. Worked for me.

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    Since I quit throwing the warly marks right from the ponds edge, no more problem.
    10-12 week old pup making 25 yard entries + 5 yard swims and returns all the way without stopping.
    Stopping at the edge is learned by throwing marks from the waters edge. Don't teach it and won't need to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjack View Post
    Since I quit throwing the warly marks right from the ponds edge, no more problem.
    10-12 week old pup making 25 yard entries + 5 yard swims and returns all the way without stopping.
    Stopping at the edge is learned by throwing marks from the waters edge. Don't teach it and won't need to fix it.
    This is something everyone should put in their note books. I don't always have that much room where I put my pups in, but at least 15 yards. If the pup drops it, I just walk over, point at it say " fetch it up" and let them run around with it for a few, Kneel down and call them by their name. Also it is fun, where I have to catch them as they try to fly by me.

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    My solution is to meet pup at the waters edge , or slightly in the water, in a place where I can get a hold of the collar in one hand and enforce the hold command with the other by tapping them under the chin. Let pup calm down a bit, take the bumper using the give command. Release the pup and command shake. Repeat until pup gets the idea then you can back up about five feet on land this time you enforce the sit at heel holding the collar if need be and repeat above. If pup drops the bumper just put it back in their mouth. Holding the pup by the collar gives me a better control so they aren't allowed to shake until released. If they try to shake just pick pup up so front feet are just off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishin444 View Post
    My solution is to meet pup at the waters edge , or slightly in the water, in a place where I can get a hold of the collar in one hand and enforce the hold command with the other by tapping them under the chin. Let pup calm down a bit, take the bumper using the give command. Release the pup and command shake. Repeat until pup gets the idea then you can back up about five feet on land this time you enforce the sit at heel holding the collar if need be and repeat above. If pup drops the bumper just put it back in their mouth. Holding the pup by the collar gives me a better control so they aren't allowed to shake until released. If they try to shake just pick pup up so front feet are just off the ground.
    I don't know, witch topic you are responding to. When the pup is 12 to 24 weeks or 17 months. Dose your pup already have OB.

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