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    Israel will do nothing. If they derailed our strategy by military means, we could not support them in the resulting war. It would give us the appearance of being a puppet of Israel and weaken our position with every other ally in the ME. Israel will likely continue their plan of targeted assassinations and look to uncover violations of the deal. On the heels of a peace deal they would look like monsters if they attacked now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    Israel will do nothing. If they derailed our strategy by military means, we could not support them in the resulting war. It would give us the appearance of being a puppet of Israel and weaken our position with every other ally in the ME. Israel will likely continue their plan of targeted assassinations and look to uncover violations of the deal. On the heels of a peace deal they would look like monsters if they attacked now.

    Maybe you couldn't support them. I don't see where we would have a choice but not to if they attacked now. Hell for that matter the surrounding arab countries might even help them too. They are not happy with the jug ears either over this. By the way, there is a framework of a peace deal, there is not one in place, yet.

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    SteveMo- incarnate ole Swampie -OCD and dyslexia - an Israeli left center paper (Haaretz) ! Chamberlain and Churchill , SteveMo was there !! Oh yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by freezeland View Post
    Maybe you couldn't support them. I don't see where we would have a choice but not to if they attacked now. Hell for that matter the surrounding arab countries might even help them too. They are not happy with the jug ears either over this. By the way, there is a framework of a peace deal, there is not one in place, yet.
    "The statesman who, seeing war inevitable, hesitates to strike first is guilty of a crime against his country."
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    The pink-pantied moron (refers to doofus, not Henlee. Well, Henlee, too.) has never heard of Clausewitz, but you can bet that war hero special forces commando Netanyahu has. The phrase "never again" means something quite serious in Israel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by freezeland View Post
    Maybe you couldn't support them. I don't see where we would have a choice but not to if they attacked now. Hell for that matter the surrounding arab countries might even help them too. They are not happy with the jug ears either over this. By the way, there is a framework of a peace deal, there is not one in place, yet.
    Our friendship is not so strong that they could move against us and still get our support. We might not them be destroyed when push came to shove, but they would be on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    Our friendship is not so strong that they could move against us and still get our support. We might not them be destroyed when push came to shove, but they would be on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freezeland View Post
    Yes, I forget who is the current president sometimes.......
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    I would agree with Henlee in that Israel won't do anything right now. However, as this moves forward, if their intel tells them that they need to make a move to protect themselves, they'll do so. We shouldn't forget that the Saudis, Egypt and Jordan are beginning to have friendlier relations with Israel. Those Arab countries are not fond of Iran, so one couldn't rule out that they will be "helpful" to the Israelis.

    So, Obama is submitting this Iran deal to the UN Security Council before Congress even reviews it. Guess he feels that Congress will fail again. Figuring that after the minor defections on TPA, the Ds will fall in line again when it counts. Will be interesting to see if anyone in the UN speaks up. The agreement goes into effect 90 days after the UN approves it, so Obama is getting a head start on that 90 days ... and not worrying about Congress. Thanks go to Senator Corker for messing this one up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    I would agree with Henlee in that Israel won't do anything right now. However, as this moves forward, if their intel tells them that they need to make a move to protect themselves, they'll do so. We shouldn't forget that the Saudis, Egypt and Jordan are beginning to have friendlier relations with Israel. Those Arab countries are not fond of Iran, so one couldn't rule out that they will be "helpful" to the Israelis.

    So, Obama is submitting this Iran deal to the UN Security Council before Congress even reviews it. Guess he feels that Congress will fail again. Figuring that after the minor defections on TPA, the Ds will fall in line again when it counts. Will be interesting to see if anyone in the UN speaks up. The agreement goes into effect 90 days after the UN approves it, so Obama is getting a head start on that 90 days ... and not worrying about Congress. Thanks go to Senator Corker for messing this one up.
    I would agree not right now, but I 'd say there is a better than 50/50 chance they will do something before the 60 days run out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    Israel will do nothing. If they derailed our strategy by military means, we could not support them in the resulting war. It would give us the appearance of being a puppet of Israel and weaken our position with every other ally in the ME. Israel will likely continue their plan of targeted assassinations and look to uncover violations of the deal. On the heels of a peace deal they would look like monsters if they attacked now.
    Hard to be in a weaker position than bent over a barrel by the Iranians in this bull**** deal we are making with them!!!

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