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    Here is what Carson Himself had to say!

    I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so I want to address it head on.
    Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.
    I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.
    I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.
    Now lets get to answering your questions.
    Nancy in Arkansas wants to know how my mother is doing.
    Nancy, you know my mother is the only reason I stand here today. I surely would have been lost if it were not for her. She is an amazing woman. If she were the Secretary of Treasury, I assure you we would have a surplus. My mother was very ill when I announced my candidacy. The family was called in by her doctors. We surrounded her and prayed as did millions of you. She began to eat again. She has her strength back. She is doing as well as we can expect. Thank you for asking.
    The next question is from Bill. He wanted to know if it was true that I was offered a slot at West Point after high school.
    Bill, that is true. I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.
    Last question as it is getting late. A young nurse in Ohio wants to know how many patients did I treat during my career.
    I treated over 15,000 patients in some 57 countries. We lived in Australia for a while as well. One of the most gratifying moments of each day is when I run into a former patient like I did tonight. My patients were all quite ill. I love seeing them with their families living normal lives. I think it is more gratifying than serving in Congress.
    Speaking of serving in Congress. I constantly get asked how could I possibly become President when I have no political experience. Here is what I say. The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,788 years of political experience. How is that working out? People forget that of our 56 founding fathers who risked it all to sign the Declaration of Independence, Five were Doctors.
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    Copied from his facebook page!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
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    Thanks, Gooser. I was about to post the same thing.

    I think that the "powers that be" are beginning to feel uneasy with the success of the Carson campaign.

    Occurs to me that if Carson were to end up as the nominee, a lot of people could have an "epiphany" ... after all, it would be a miracle
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    MooseGooser your Carson Post #11 appear to my reading to be most clear as to his actions. Thank you.

    Now , Carson's views that he expressed on Fox about Planned Parenthood activities in minority communities I happen to agree with. Elsewhere I have made some comments about the American "eugenics movement". It was a harsh movement backed by all kinds of money , intellectuals , politicos and medical society that resulted in death , imprisonment , sterilization and 1924 Immigration laws which prevented "non-Nordics" coming to America.

    See ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenic..._United_States
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    I am asking this question because of my extremely limited knowledge of the Medical Profession and it's research methods. Also, it is not pointed specifically at you, Cary. I quoted your post so that there would be some context associated with it.

    Does anyone know what the acceptable procedures(s) are for performing abortions? Also, what professional body created and administers these procedures? Thanks in advance.-Paul
    Good question Paul. In the profession, the terminology used is the "Standard of Care". MJ could also comment on it since it is a legal term. It is the standard of care that is generally accepted in the profession. Needless to say that care also changes from time to time based on research.

    From a dental standpoint, one can expect certain requirements of a dental exam. To meet the standard the dentist should look for any cancerous lesions, bone loss, periodontal disease, oclusal trauma, just to name a few things that are involved in a dental exam. To omit any of these things would mean that the dentist has deviated in a manner that the exam would no longer meet the Standard of care. Another example in dentistry would be a root tip that breaks off and does not come out when a tooth is extracted. Many dentists are uncomfortable with attempting to remove these root tips. Should a dentist decide not to remove the root tip, standard of care REQUIRES that he(she) inform the patient of the existence of the root tip and the complications of leaving it, if any.

    Like any other medical procedure, abortions also should meet the standard of care. I am sure you understand that the use of a coat hangar would not meet the stand of care. Most deviations from standard of care are the result of failure to pay attention to detail, lack of current or proper knowledge, but almost NEVER would one deviate from that standard knowingly, just to make a profit. I watched the video of the doctor talking about deviating from the standard of care in order to maximize the profit from the body parts. To me that is sickening and the doctor should at a minimum be censured or better yet, lose his(her) license.


    Just so I am PERFECTLY clear, none of this should be construed to imply my support for either pro choice or pro life. I am not afraid of anyone knowing my position only that it is much more complicated that just for or against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swliszka View Post
    Get a grip guys. Did you watch the interview? Bolling even put up a picture of Sanger as Carson spoke. Bolling commiserated with Carson over the overt destruction of black fetuses to the "3x" population of the black population resulting in a net loss of blacks.

    Carayaslobrook please argue the information not the messenger. Need I say more about dentists? No..be adult.
    I thought I made my post perfectly clear. The statement that Dr. Carson' "real argument with PP is with the clinics in black neighborhoods, implies that his many other arguments with PP are false arguments. the statement made in your 2nd paragraph was pure propaganda at best and absolute lie at worst. If you want another one of his arguments, read my response to Paul. He also has objected to their deviation from standard of care.

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    I believe the hypocrite comments where in regards to his Faux News interview where he said fetus's are completely unnecessary for medical research, then it comes on that he was involved in a group that had used tissue from fetuses in their study.
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    Here's the interview! Whats the problem?? Margret Sanger is a despicable human being! The Founder of PP! I too wonder if the people who work for that organization knows about her beliefs! The Nazi's did!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBa8Y_EDg0
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    Caryalsobrook ---MooseGooser post #18 on this thread is the actual interview ...watch it. I DID NOT misrepresent Carson he clearly states ..one of the reasons you have Planned Parenthood in black communities is to control the black population...your hyperbole is only exceeded by your misrepresentation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by swliszka View Post
    Caryalsobrook ---MooseGooser post #18 on this thread is the actual interview ...watch it. I DID NOT misrepresent Carson he clearly states ..one of the reasons you have Planned Parenthood in black communities is to control the black population...your hyperbole is only exceeded by your misrepresentation...

    Yes! He speaks truth!!! Research Margret Sangor,,,Eugenics! The founder of PP!!

    Mrs Clinton admires her!
    Last edited by MooseGooser; 08-14-2015 at 07:03 PM.
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