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    Quote Originally Posted by TBell View Post
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    It could even be possible that some clubs may host a MASTER EXCELLENT with a SENOR and JUNIOR stake, and skip the hassle of even hosting a MASTER stake that most can't even get entered in.

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    Wouldn't this make it even harder for the handlers and their dogs working toward getting their MH title? Club elects to hold a Master Excellent test without a Master Hunter test = less opportunities for events which will put additional burden on other clubs holding a MH test and more problems entering the MH test for handlers. You think it is tough getting into a MH test currently, just think about how much harder it would be if there were handlers trying to enter the event further away from them because the local club decided to hold a Master Excellent instead of a MH test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony C View Post
    If AKC Master Hunter dogs and handlers want/need more challenges and opportunities to show off their expertise in hunting scenarios, give NAHRA a try. We test two additional skill sets that a hunting companion/conservation tool should possess. The trail and an upland hunt.
    Thought exactly the same thing Tony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    We worked our ass off to obtain this... Now SOME,,, want to degrade the accomplisnent, and make it not so excellent anymore...
    They have an agenda that doesnt like being TESTED to a STANDRD,, but rather want something that Tests with being better than......

    That Kennel ration commercial is slowly creeping into HT's

    "My dogs better than your dog, My dogs better than yours,, My dogs better cause he is EXCELLENT,, my dogs better than yours....

    Pretty childish....

    If I had a really excellent dog,, I'd try a realcompetition against AFC's !
    Well said Gooser... I don't have a MH dog yet but hoping to. If they are so much better than the reg ol MH dog. go run the SRS or start running FT's like a good number of guy I know are doing.

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    A new test that a small % can run screwing things up for the 60 who could get in the MH test. I would doubt many club members would back such an idea.
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    wish ther was a like button option on post... LOL

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    It is entirely up to each individual club. Many clubs only host a Senior/Junior event because the club resources are small.

    Some clubs offer a large event in the spring to raise money, and then follow up in the Fall with a small event that includes stakes that current working club members are running ie: a 90 dog Master/double Junior/Senior in the Spring and a Senior/Junior in the Fall.

    This stake could be another option for the clubs who choose to offer an O/H Qual. The clubs should have a wide range of options to reward members for their hard work.
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    "IF" the MHX is ever approved by the AKC it could be used as an option to control entries much the same way FTs can control their Open entry with a Restricted, Special, or Limited. How a MHX placement /ranking / completion is tabulated for titles and Nationals eligibilities will need to be determined.
    IMHO it maybe a good option for some clubs but not for most, same as the various Opens in FTs.

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    For the breeders....

    What do you think it (MHX) will do to the prestige of the Master Hunter title?

    Do you think shoppers will only consider a MHX? Will that be the new demand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    For the breeders....

    What do you think it (MHX) will do to the prestige of the Master Hunter title?

    Do you think shoppers will only consider a MHX? Will that be the new demand?

    Yes; the 'shoppers' who think that they can buy what was trained into the MHX dogs will do just that.

    Nothing new here. It's been going on for a long time in all of the Retriever games.

    On another note, this type of venue has already been tried. Anyone remember NFRA (National Field Retriever Association)? I know you do, Vicky. -Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    On another note, this type of venue has already been tried. Anyone remember NFRA (National Field Retriever Association)? I know you do, Vicky. -Paul
    Yup .... here too!
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