"For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48
Raven - Moneybird's Black Magic Marker***
(Esprit's Power Play x Trumarc's Lean Cuisine)
Mick - Moneybird's Jumpin' Jack Flash***
(Clubmead's Road Warrior x Oakdale Whitewater Devil Dog)
Peerless - Moneybird's Sole Survivor
(Two River's Lucky Willie x Moneybird's Black Magic Marker)
I wanted everyone to know that after starting the Organic protein there was a remarkable difference after 2 months. My girls hind leg muscles seem to be much stronger. Before starting this I her hind tail bone/hip area were very noticeable. Now not so much. I also started using Nutra Thrive Canine supplement. It is a holistic supplement put out by a vet after studying Asian herbs. I have been using that for about 1 month and between the 2 , she is lot more active. Still slow to get up but once up, walks better, hind legs are not shaking when she is standing up. Her breathing has never been a big problem as long as she does not get too much exercise. I will let you know if she improves more by using these products. You can get the organic protein at Wal-Mart or Sams. Not expensive at all. The Nutra Thrive is from Ultimate Pet Nutrition. That is around 60.00 a month, but I don't care if it helps.
My old girl is getting worse from the LP. She is not breathing very hard most of the time, but the hind legs are really giving her issues. She is still happy and loves her bumpers. She will be 13 this week. But she started have a rattling sound coming out instead of a low bark. Has anyone had anything like that happen. It is very strange sounding. Very hard to watch her not be able to get up if she is not on a rug. Even then she has problems. Once she is up she is ok most of the time unless she is standing still on the tile floor, than her hinds legs slide from under her.
I'm very sorry Karen. It's really hard to watch them degrade. My boy has a very soft 'wheeze' on each exhale. I'm sure it will progress to something worse.... He is 13 1/2. May I ask what protein powder you are using? There are soooo many on the market, it's hard to decide.
Thanks and <<<hugs>>>.
The True Labrador
Life is Good . . . Do what you like - Like what you do.
Becky, as far as rugs I can only put so many. She chooses the tile because it is cooler for her. She has learned that if she has trouble getting up, she can bark and someone will help her up. She is happy for now and still loves to get her bumpers , eats fine most of the time.
Marcia, the protein I was using is human all natural organic I was buying from Sam's. It comes in vanilla or Choc, so vanilla it is. I have switched to a protein chewable pill , but still for humans. Not sure how much it is helping now but can't hurt. When I started using it, it refilled out her back hips again some. Bone not showing quit as much.
I am just glad to get her pass 13 yrs old.
My guy is definitely seeing his LP and hind end issues catch up with him. He'll be 13 in May and had his tieback almost a year ago. Has had two bouts of aspiration pneumonia but rallied back from both. Now if he even shows signs of a cough he's back on antibiotics. Try to spend every bit of time I can with him - he's pretty damn special to me. Protein powder sounds like a good addition to try! Was feeling pretty down about the whole situation a couple weeks back but am now watching a training partner's 7 year old deal with a front leg osteosarcoma. Made me realize that, even though this sucks, I've been pretty blessed to have him still around at almost 13. Damn dogs .....
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MSU does a lot of research and care for GOLPP. Very informative site. I've had three labs with LP over the last 15 years, all had tiebacks: two were a success - both lived to die of something else, and one was a limited success. Make sure you use a very experienced surgeon who does a lot of these procedures - that was the issue with the last one. All three developed the insidious neurologic deficits in their hindquarters. In two cases, that is what finally forced me to put them down.
I have used doxepin as well, with some success. And also bought a Ruffwear harness which proved invaluable (MSU recommends HelpEmUp which I have heard is also very good), along with a ramp, lots of throw rugs, and loving care and patience. It also the ONLY time I feed using an elevated food bowl. Aspiration pneumonia is the biggest danger with the tieback. One of mine had that twice and without immediate treatment with strong antibiotics it would have been his demise.
(By the way vestibular syndrome, while very scary, does resolve over time. It's rough sledding while it's happening but the dog can get through it - without other things going on of course).
Good luck to all that are dealing with this.