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    Monday night (facing North)

    Bird was thrown left to right dog was coming inside of the mark.

    Then when thrown right to left, dog was stepping on the mark.



    Tuesday night (Facing South)

    Gunner threw right to left to right and she was inside of the bird.

    Then you threw left to right and she stepped on it.


    The direction is from my point of view and the dog was running with the wind.
    They were just walking singles, 4 each direction (8 total).

    Thoughts?

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    I think she is acting like a dog.

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    To understand all about this read this related article and interpolate and then do your set ups accordingly. Mean while ask the dog. I do that often "what in whiskers are you doing that for" or similar. Rarely do I get an answer. Just so you know I had shouler surgery yesterday n th narcs kicked in.

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    You wrote that the dog was running with the wind. While the wind was mostly downwind, it sounds like there may have been some East in the wind such that the wind wasn't a true North wind or a true South wind but had some NE wind or SE wind in it. Wind is a very strong factor influencing the dog to run downwind and off course. Any East in the winds you had on both of those days would have caused your dog to act just like it did. Otherwise, there could be other suction factors present that you didn't observe but existed to your dog. Just a couple of thoughts.

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    What time of day?
    She's running toward or away from the sun. What does she do at noon?

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    In all seriousness, if your dog steps in 1/2 the birds and goes under arc and quickly hunts up bird on the other 1/2, your dog will never be dropped for marking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Littlejohn View Post
    What time of day?
    She's running toward or away from the sun. What does she do at noon?
    It was around 5pm both days, so sun was in the west.

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    Chipper, IMHO you have unreasonable expectations if your goal is for the dog to front foot each and every mark. You might read the akc definition of marking. An example as the first bird in a triple at an akc master test. The bird came from behind a large bush. It also went behind a tree along the arc. The dogs saw the bird but most probably flash marked it as it came from behind the tree. Most dogs blew deep and went to the tree line and hunted back.
    My Rowdy had a pretty good hunt but he stayed tight in the area of the fall. I heard one of the judges tell an apprentice judge that he was giving the dog an 8 on the mark because he never left the area of the fall.
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    Are you running trials or hunt test?
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